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In the version I read, Óengus tricked Elcmar out of Brug na Bóinne (with the Daghda's active connivance!). The story is the "Wooing of Étáin": vide hic. Will adjust text accordingly. QuartierLatin1968 Image:Flag of Anarcho syndicalism.svg

[edit] Accuracy

The timing suggested in the article makes no sense. It says that the Dagda ruled Ireland before dying at the Brú na Bóinne, finally succumbing to a wound inflicted by Cethlenn during the first battle of Magh Tuiredh. This seems to imply that he died before the second battle of Magh Tuiredh, but that isn't possible because, as this article also says, Prior to the battle with the Fomorians (Which is the second battle of Magh Tuiredh), he coupled with the goddess of war, the Morrigan, on Samhain in exchange for a plan of battle. And if he was king of Ireland before the second battle of Magh Tuiredh, there is no way he could have been king after Lugh, because Lugh became king after Nuadha was killed by Balor during the second battle of Magh Tuiredh. Lugh wasn't even born until after the first battle of Magh Tuiredh. The suggestion that the Dagda was the son of Elatha or of Eithlinn also seems suspicious. Elatha is traditionally the father of Bres, and Eithlinn is the mother of Lugh. My source for this information is Over Nine Waves by Mary Heaney. Celsiana 19:52, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately for encyclopedia editors, Irish mythology is inconsistent and sometimes contradictory, and a coherent "timeline" is impossible to construct. You can't expect to get a full picture of the subject from a single secondary source. I haven't read Over Nine Waves, but Heaney, like most modern writers, has probably simplified a bit. But why couldn't Elatha or Ethlinn not have had several children? At some point I'll try and track down the texts the various elements of the Dagda's "biography" come from (most of the Irish myth entries are a bit lacking in this respect). --Nicknack009 12:30, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

An expert of my (past) acquaintance informed me that the Dagda's name would be properly pronounced something like "Dah-yuh," but I'm wondering how one would pronounce "Eochaid Ollathair." Something like "yo-hay all-a-heer?"
*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 14:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

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