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[edit] Degrees?

Presumably we are talking Celcius degrees? 18:54, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Here are google hits for temperature of lightning
  • [1] 54 000 F = 30 000 C
  • [2] 28-30 Kelvin from peer reviewed sources.
  • [3] Nasa 20,000 degrees C

So it is pretty clear that who ever typed that was thinking in Farenheit. Which will seem very strange to anyone who hasnt been to the USA, where that is still the defualt temperature scale! Perhaps the author hadn't been to the rest of the world where Celcius is the default. Anyway in the interest of US rest of the word relations I will leave both Billlion 08:08, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Thunder

Thunder is most likely an explosive, multidirectional sonic boom created by the lightning bolt rather and an "expansion and contraction of air". Many people think it's scary, but you they can not hit you. Because people have different structurs then a poet

A sonic boom is a shock wave -- caused by the expansion of airBilllion 22:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No Lightning no Rumbling?

Is there any occurrance of sound without lightning? The old tale was that when different masses of air "collide" and mix there is a sort of early storm sound. This may be a myth. It may also influence the lightning sound theory noted above.

[edit] Thunder gods?

Do we need this list?Yes we do need a list. Isnt it covered by the category!Billlion 22:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I think we do need the list. There is no problem with information being duplicated in a list and a category, and the list allows one to describe each link. -- Reinyday, 01:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC). PUT INFORMATION ABOUT THUNDER GODS...
I don't think the list is needed here since we already a separate article for List of thunder gods which is more complete. Having it included here instead of linked to gives it undue weight. Angela. 09:28, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thunder Saints - Sfantul Ilie and Saint Michael

There is a major prophet&saint in the Romanian Christian-Orthodox religion, called Ilie, that people believe to be the master of thunders and violent summer tunderstorms. His celebration is an important event in the Orthodox Calendar and takes place every year on july the 20th http://www.calendar-ortodox.ro/luna/iulie/iulie20.htm. He is depicted driving a horse-pulled chariot (sometimes of fire) over storm clouds http://www.plasticsusa.com/ortho/ic040a.jpg. It is said in Romanian folklore that when he's angry or just passing by in his vehicle, he throws thunders away. There are lots of churches built in his honour all over Romania, and Ilie is a common name for a man in this country. This character might be the old Slav Thunder God Perun, adopted by the Eastern Christian Orthodox Church in order to ease the conversion of the Slavs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perun#Post-Christian_Perun, but since the Orthodox people here are mostly not Slavs, but descendants of the Romanized Dacians, connections between Ilie, the Dacian god Gebeleizis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebeleizis and roman mythology must be investigated. The Catholic Church attributes the power over thunders to St. Michael http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perun#Post-Christian_Perun .
Since there is a topic about Thunder gods, I think that Saint Ilie and St. Michael should be mentioned in this article alongside Perun as his successors, with the note that they are not actual gods, but Holly People in monotheistic beliefs (they are venerated and not worshiped, they were real people once that were glorified in Heaven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint, but still supernatural characters).

[edit] More information desired!!

  • how loud is thunder?
  • can thunder ever be dangerous (APART from any danger caused by the electrical discharge)
  • can thunder be heard underwater

etc —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.107.0.73 (talk) 21:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC).

  • According to Dangerous Decibels.org, thunder is about 120dB, about the same as most high-power firearms.
  • This high sound level can cause immediate damage to the inner ear; according to Virginia.edu, three minutes of exposure to thunder will cause permanent Noise-induced hearing loss.
  • Thunder is sure to be heard underwater, just as most loud noises that can be heard through different media. See sound for more information about this. Good questions! I'll add the information to the article. V-Man737 05:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

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