User talk:Topcattheirrefutable

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1 Your edit to Sydney Swans
2 Sockpuppet tags
3 vandal?
4 Sockpuppetry
5 Removal of legitimate notices
6 RE: Dear CattleGirl
7 put up or shut up

[edit] Your edit to Sydney Swans

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[edit] Sockpuppet tags

I've noticed that you've been tagging both User: Dibo and User: Tancred for sockpuppetry. Dibo removed the tag, saying that here was no evidence, and i am inclined to agree, as you said to refer to talk: football. I looked at that page, and there is no evidence there at all. If you tag these users, please provide reasons for the tagging. If you have any enquiries, please talk to me on my talk page. CattleGirl^{Talk to me}

Once again, you've tagged both of these user's pages with the sockpuppet tag, and once again i've removed them, as by clicking on the link you supplied in the tag, there is no evidence there. I compared the edits of the two users concerned, and they do not appear to be similar. Also, there is not a discussion on Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets, going on whether these two users are in fact sockpuppets. If you have any evidence, please, don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page, otherwise, i will continue to remove these tags until there is a discussion in place, and adequate evidence is put on the tag. CattleGirl^{Talk to me}

[edit] vandal?

Your rather quick to start calling me "troll vandal", as well as accusing me of sockpuppetry. Your edits look very similar to edits made in the past by Ehinger222, who also spent some time posting from a number of different IP addresses. Are you Ehinger222 returned? Oh and as to your claims that Dibo & I are the same person, feel free to to ask for the to be looked into. We are not the same person and I always post under my login. Tancred 09:12, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sockpuppetry

Because of recent edit conflicts concerning you, Dibo and Tancred, i have been monitoring your pages for changes, one of which is the placing of sockpuppet tags. I've noticed that you keep on removing the tags from your page, however, according to this page on wikipedia you must keep this tag on your userpage for at least 10 days. You can remove this tag if there is not a proper evidence page, but in this case, there is- see the template i have restored on your userpage. Here is the evidence page you have been listed on. Feel free to respond to these accusations, and feel free to contact me on my talk page. CattleGirl^{Talk to me}

[edit] Removal of legitimate notices

If i may quote from Wikipedia:Sock puppetry/Notes for the suspect:

"II. If the accuser has listed evidence against you, you are not allowed to remove the notice from your page for ten days. You are allowed to respond to each and every accusation on the evidence page but are not allowed to remove accusations."

I have made an evidence page. Feel free to refute allegations there, but you may not remove the notice until ten days have passed. Dibo 06:07, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Dear CattleGirl

Thankyou for your concern in the dispute. I essentially use no rules on wikipedia except the general convention of being wikipedian and attempting to improve the encyclopedia. I am the Ehinger but I am not Ehinger222 which is a different character. I have literally hundreds of created sockpuppets, but most of them are only used to create pages and are used once. I have literally contributed thousands of valid edits to wikipedia and have improved the enc yclopedia n areas very varied from Atlantis to the Basque language.

If I want to have a little fun at the expense of an i.d. that devotes its time almost exclusively to compiling"evidence" against me(most of it wrong for that matter), than is it really such a bad thing? Have a geeze at Dibo's account fr the month leading up to October 1st. The dude only came on looking for me. Oh ... and I am 90% sure that he is Tancred. They both eroneously assert tha soccer should be referred to as football which is stupid and wrong and thay continually troll by insisting on it in articles that they have done nothing to create or contribute to.

Comrade

13:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)Topcattheirrefutable

You're welcome for my concern in the dispute. I want Wikipedia to be as peaceful as possible- and that, to me, means that if we follow all the rules and protocols then there will be non reason for that peace to be disturbed. If you are the Ehinger, you ARE a sockpuppet, and actually, i would not be the least bit surprised if Ehinger222 was you as well, considering the usernames are so similar. However, if you only use them once, then what is the point of creating them? Really, it is 'taking up' usernames that other people can't use in the future.

Even though there are some types of sockpuppetry that is fine on wikipedia, you do not fall under those headings. From what i can see, Dibo has gone to a fair bit of work to outline this sockpuppetry, and i have had to revert your userpage a number of times as well. And also, Dibo can come on whenever he wants- if it was the month leading up to this, him signing on probably led him to see you and your sockpuppets.

I know this defence is sounding a lot like i am taking sides, but i personally do not see the similarities between Dibo and Tancred. I've looked at their edits on that page a number of times, and can't see the resemblance. Also, even though they might agree on the same thing, doesn't necessarily mean that they are the same person. And if you don't mind me saying, i haven't come across an edit where either of them troll. However, if you are going to accuse them of sockpuppetry, you may want to pay attention to the rules, as the case won't be considered if you are not following protocol and entering it in properly.

You said before: If I want to have a little fun at the expense of an i.d. that devotes its time almost exclusively to compiling"evidence" against me(most of it wrong for that matter), than is it really such a bad thing? Well, firstly if it is wrong, you can comment on why it is wrong on the evidence page against you, however i think the case may have been closed, you may have to check the archive. CattleGirl 07:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Cattlegirl, I can remove the SP tag because I follow no rules and in 99% of cases I am entirely wikipedian. Protocol does not apply for me. 01:01, 4 October 2006 (UTC)Topcattheirrefutable

Remove it if you want, however i am going to revert it back, because i do follow the rules. It applies to the rest of us, and i for one do not see how you can be an exception if the rest of us make an effort to keep the peace and abide by the rules. However, i am going to check if you can remove it from your page yet, if the case is still open. However, last time i checked you had to keep it on your page for about another 8 days, 7 now. CattleGirl 07:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)