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[edit] Name and meaning

I was doing a bit of research to find the Tibetan name for this thing, and I encountered some confusion. It seems that there are two related words, or two forms of the same word, in Tibetan which are pronounced "trul khor": one was originally written 'khrul-'khor (འཁྲུལ་འཁོར་), and the other written, 'phrul-'khor (འཕྲུལ་འཁོར་). Websters gives the meaning of 'khrul-'khor as "artifice, black magic syn syn, craft, cycle of confusion, deceptive round, esoteric yogic practice, gadgetry, hatha yoga, machinery, magical wheel, mechanism, vicious circle, vicious cycle, wheel, yantra magical wheel", while 'phrul-'khor is "machine, magical wheel, wheel of magic". Synonyms or a slight difference in meaning? Which is correct in the case of this article? Should we interpret it's meaning as "magical wheel" or as "machine"?

For reference, "tsa lung" seems to be rtsa rlung, which means "the yoga of channels and energies" or "artery/nerve energy/breath" - Nat Krause(Talk!) 03:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Nat, the glossary in Healing with Form, Energy, and Light by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche (Ithaca, New York: Snow Lion Publications, 2002. ISBN 1559391766, p. 145) gives following spellings: 'khrul 'khor and rtsa rlung.--Klimov 09:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

210.11.58.16 03:35, 27 October 2006 (UTC) b9 hummingbird hovering here: there is not a definitive translation, i personally do not like the mechanisation of 'machine', I feel that 'instrument' is more akin with the intention of the original, also magical wheel in the shared sense of yantra and mandala... interesting trul khor is also Tibetan for mandala... namaste...b9 hummingbird hovering 210.11.58.16 03:35, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

The article is not verifiable at all, it doesn't quote any sources. What is that "publication" mentioned? Is it internal material only? If yes, it shouldn't be listed at all. —Babelfisch 08:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

The article lists a references, so it is not unsourced. It is simply not footnoted. Different thing. Footnoting is not required. Citing of sources (i.e. references section), is. The correct thing to do in such a case where you'd like to encourage footnoting is to put the informative {{citations missing}} on the talk page. I shall do so for you. Ekajati (yakity-yak) 15:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

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