Talk:Tunku Abdul Rahman
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As requested, I have copyedited this article, and reduced the overly-admiring tone.
Questions arising:
- What does YTM stand for?
- He cannot be called "The Tunku," which sounds too admiring and POV. I have called him Abdul Rahman.
- Alor Setar or Alor Star? Both spellings appear. I believe the official spelling was changed at some point.
- What did he do during the war? Did he collaborate with the Japanese as most of the princes did? Did he oppose or support MPAJA?
- There is no reference to the Emergency. What role did he play?
Adam 1 July 2005 07:22 (UTC)
YTM is Yang Teramat Mulia, the title of the son of a reigning Sultan. As for Alor Star/Setar, I think Setar is the "correct" spelling but Star remains more common. Jpatokal 1 July 2005 08:32 (UTC)
Thanks. If YTM is the title of the son of a reigning Sultan, then what is Tunku? Is this a hereditary title, or did he acquire it? If so, when? Adam 1 July 2005 08:44 (UTC)
- Tunku just means Prince. So Tunku is Abdul Rahman's title and YTM is his style. Check out the Malay titles article for some insight into the maddeningly complex system... Jpatokal 1 July 2005 16:30 (UTC)
Sorry to repeat myself, but:
- What did he do during the war? Did he collaborate with the Japanese? Did he oppose or support MPAJA?
- What role did he play in the Emergency?
- Was he born with the titles YTM and Tunku, or were they conferred on him, and if so when?
Adam 4 July 2005 12:31 (UTC)
- As the son of a sultan, he was born with the title Tunku, and a Tunku's style is YTM. Jpatokal 6 July 2005 07:59 (UTC)
Now YTM has disappeared and "Tunku Sam" has appeared. I have never heard this name and it gets no Google hits. Is this a joke? And could our Malaysian friends please come up with an agreement on what he ought to be called? Adam 12:37, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- I'm pretty certain that it's just a joke. I've reverted (both in the article and on the photo). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 14:12, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
