Talk:Unicursal hexagram
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This article is far too focused on Odinism and one user's particular POV. There are no citations to prove that the Unicursal Hexagram is an important symbol in contemporary Odinism; the artcile also goes on to make claims about the symbols origins and meaning that are again not cited and appear biased. Furthermore the article repeats itself, especially at the start and is poorly written and structured. - Solar 10:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Golden Dawn and the Unicursal Hexagram
This is a discussino that happened on the GD page but I thoguht it was more relevent for here. FK0071a 08:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion
Right, it has been removed twice now the image (shown below) of the UH stating that the HOOTGD did not use it or it wasn't their symbol. Like I said, any half decent research by yourselves can find this out. Also, Any credible historians documenting the History of the Hermetic Order will had has given this information.
Small examples are as follows:
- The Complete Golden Dawn System of Magic (ltd edition) (Hardcover)
by Israel Regardie, Christopher S. Hyatt
- http://altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/symbols/bldefsunicursal.htm
- http://www.smokindragon.com/new_page_2.htm
- http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2110/unicursal.html
- Crowly is credited with creating both design innacuratly by some historians. But, he amended the original and placed a five pettled rose in the middle. The original was devised and used by the HOOTGD.
- The Unicursal Hexagram originates from the Golden Dawn document "Polygons and Polygrams". When Israel Regardie published his book "The Golden Dawn", he did not have access to document, and it was first published by Crowley, which lead to the generel misconception that Crowley originated the Unicursal Hexagram. Now however, he credits them with this.
Combined with the Marian Rose, the Unicursal Hexagram becomes Crowley's personal sigil, which is the magical union of 5 and 6 giving 11, the number of magick and new beginnings.
FK0071a 08:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- None of the sites you give meets Wikipedia requirements for references. Please see WP:V - the editor wishing to add the material is responsible for supplying a credible reference. In this case, a historical work showing that the symbol was used by the Golden Dawn and NOT some successor organization, Stella Matutina, modern G.D. reconstruction, etc. That is, a book reference, with a page number so other editors can verify it. Per WP:V, any editor may remove uncited additions. The burden of proof is on the editor who wishes to make the addition. In any case, it doesn't belong at the top of the article! —User:Hanuman Das 04:03, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cleanup
This article needs a lot of cleanup, on several levels, starting with copyediting (who are the "them" who are credited?). AnonMoos 14:58, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
