Talk:Ununbium

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For a November 2004 deletion debate over this page see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Ununbium

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Contents 1 Whose opinion is it... 2 Name 3 A gas 4 final decay product?

[edit] Whose opinion is it...

...that this element is a liquid as opposed to a solid?? Feel free to give any external links available. 66.245.98.219 23:17, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I have no idea how anyone could confirm its liquid state when so few atoms have been produced, but more importantly, why is this article being considered for deletion? AFAIK, this element hasn't yet been given a name, and so the "ununbium" article should remain. User:Heian-794 01:00, 1 Dec 2004

Probably Uub is a liquid. Look the elements in the group 12:

Element	Melting point	Boiling point
Zinc	419´5 ºC	907 ºC
Cadmium	321 ºC	767 ºC
Mercury	-38´8 ºC	356´73 ºC

So, Uub may has a melting point less than -40 ºC and a boiling point less than 300 ºC--Daniel bg 11:05, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name

I hereby a name helmholtzium (Hh) after Hermann von Helmholtz is a proposed name. I found that two proposed names in this wikipedia article is gone. The former name was istrium (Is) in honor of Istria. Cosmium 20:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Now, when should the element get an official permanent name?? Georgia guy 20:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

The first is not a sentence. Where are your sources? -lysdexia 08:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm guessing the commenter's first language might not be English, so why make a point of grammar? It's understandable. However, to the issue of sources... I believe helmholtzium is more due not just to Professor Helmholtz, but the consortium that GSI is part of: similar to the naming of dubnium. The other name bouncing around, wixhausium was one of their names they originally considered for darmstadtium. This is because GSI is located in Wixhausen specifically, which is a short distance from Darmstadt. I've never seen istrium around: that would be peculiar, because so far, GSI's gone with naming their discoveries after German scientists Lise Meitner, William Röntgen, the state they're in, Hesse, and the metropolitan area, Darmstadt. There's a certain logic to wixhausium and helmholtzium... ---Sturmde 03:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A gas

How did you changed that ununbium is a gas, but not as the liquid. Following periodic trend with mercury it would have boiling point lower than that of mercury. I guessed the boiling point of 150°C and melting point −100°C. Cosmium 22:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

It is probably too early to really say, but there is a paper cited in the article titled "Indication for a gaseous element 112" which is based on experimental data, not periodic trends (or even theoretical calculations). It is a good paper and relatively readable (it also briefly discusses why periodic trends are not necessarily going to hold up for the superheavy elements. I can't claim to be an expert but it has something to do with relativistic effects). Kingdon 23:09, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] final decay product?

I clipped this out of the note on the confirmation of May 2006:

(identified as a final product of an elemental decay series)

how could an isotope such as this be anywhere near the end of a decay series? Potatoswatter 04:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

For a heavy enough element: ununoctium to ununhexium to ununbium. --Vuo 08:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Well thank you! Still not sure what "final" means in this context… guess that's for me to look up tho. Potatoswatter 09:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

According to the ununoctium article, it means it's the final beta-decay product. As it undergoes fission after this... wouldn't that mean it's at the end of a beta-decay series, as it is not itself stable? 60.226.133.172 11:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

The word "beta" does not appear in ununoctium. We've sorted it out, thank you :v) . Potatoswatter 17:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)