Talk:USS Iowa (BB-61)

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Is this the same Iowa whose gun turret exploded in 1989? -- Zoe

Yup. But it's not recorded in DANFS yet, so the facts are too much in dispute to record here. :-) But seriously, the article is still missing all the 1980s action... Stan 03:21 Apr 18, 2003 (UTC)

What was the name of the sailor who was accused of blowing up the turret intentionally because of his being upset over the ending of an alleged homosexual relationship? -- Zoe

Oh how juicy - I don't remember ever hearing the story at the time, but there's plenty about it on the net. The sailor in question was Clayton Hartwig, and the Navy's website carefully doesn't mention the scandal... Stan 04:53 Apr 18, 2003 (UTC)

What's the source for the 1968 section in the "Armaments" table? If the ship was mothballed from 1958 to 1983, why would there be an entry for 1968? Does it really mean to reference 1958? And why, in 1958 or 1968, would it have no AA armaments at all? Cromis 18:47, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Looks like the table was copied from the New Jersey one. I removed the entry. And the New Jersey had the guns removed to save weight as it was correctly assumed that there would be no air threat from the North Vietnamese, and such guns would not be useful even if there was.Spejic 19:16, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Mispelling? 2 Stricken 3 Suisun Bay, San Francisco 4 Last Battleships?

[edit] Mispelling?

Iowa departed on a midshipman training cruise 1 June 1955 and upon her return, she entered Norfolk for a four-mouth overhaul.

What is a four-mouth overhaul?

That should be "month" (the "u"/"n" confusion is very common in OCRed txt). Stan 17:28, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. Also E.T. Woolfidge --> Edmund T. Wooldridge.

—wwoods 21:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stricken

According to http://www.nvr.navy.mil/nvrships/details/BB61.htm the ship was stricken from the Navy list on March 17, 2006. A large chunk of the "present" section of the article is going to have to be deleted now. Spejic 04:51, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I have updated the info bar to reflect this new development, and I will reword the present section to reflect this as well (assuming, of course, that no one beats me to it). TomStar81 09:11, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Anchorage nest at Suisun Bay

Pictured right is one of the anchorage nests at Suisun Bay. Am I correct in thinking that Iowa is the rightmost vessel shown? If so, should I add this photo to the article? -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 01:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

• That is correct, Iowa is the vessel on the far right. I would refrain from adding this photo though; In my opinion a better one would be a picture of the land Iowa would have if moved to Stockton, or better yet, a concept photo of the planned museum for Iowa. TomStar81 03:04, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I feel the need to clarify my earlier comment: Having looked at it a little longer I think maybe it would look good in the bottom part of the section on Iowa’s placement into the mothball fleet; although I would refrain from adding it to the museum ship section. TomStar81 04:46, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
    • But the thing is that Iowa is 'with' the mothball fleet, but not 'in' it. It isn't a member of the Navy Inactive Fleet - it's just temporarily being stored with them. Spejic 11:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suisun Bay, San Francisco

She arrived in Suisun Bay, San Francisco, on 21 April 2001 and is part of the Reserve Fleet there.

Wait, am I mistaken, or is Suisun Bay NOT within the boundaries of the City and County of San Francisco? In fact, I believe it's at least 10 miles away (by flight, farther by water-travel) from San Francisco. It may, however, be accessible to the San Francisco Bay via the San Pablo Bay, but that's hardly cause to call it "Suisun Bay, San Francisco", no? Perhaps preferrable would be "Suisun Bay, in northern California", or "Suisun Bay, in the San Francisco Bay Area"? - Eric 09:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Suisun Bay is indeed not in SF county - the northern extent of SF county is Red Rock Island, which is just south of the Richmond-San Rafael bridge. Measuring the distance from Red Rock to the Suisun fleet in Google Earth it's around 19 miles. "Suisun Bay, in northern California" seems best; as Suisun Bay isn't part of SF Bay (they're separated by the Carquinez Strait) I think mentioning SF bay might be confusing. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 16:26, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Last Battleships?

Hello, the line: "The Iowa, as class leader of the last battleships in any navy..." caught my attention. Wasn't the British battleship Vanguard the last battleship of any navy? Even though the primary 15 inch guns of the Vanguard were recycled from earlier ships, wasn't the Vanguard newer than the Iowa class?

Vanguard was the last battleship ever built. She was completed after USS Missouri, in 1946, and was known in brittian for being the only battleship to never fire in anger. TomStar81 (Talk) 23:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, the line "The Iowa, as class leader of the last battleships in any navy..." seems to jump out at me. Vanguard's 15 inch guns were fired in anger, at Jutland in WW1, but they were fitted to earlier ships.

The Iowa Class was the last US class, but I'm sure it wasn't the last class ever, even though HMS Vanguard was a one off.