Talk:Walt Disney World Resort

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The fact that this entity is owned by Disney is mentioned in the article and in the categorization, therefore the see also section is not necessary. Gentgeen 05:28, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Oldest talk

Is it just me or is the Walt Disney World guide on Wikitravel really poor? Even the name is bad - Disneyworld. Speedway 18:42, 29 Dec 2004

Perhaps the information found here on WDW is poor but there are a plethora of "unofficial" websites for planning a perfect trip to the Kingdom. Deb Wills' Unofficial Walt Disney World Information Guide (allearsnet.com) is perhaps the most comprehensive even including menus and prices at every eating establishment at WDW. This may seem extreme, but for a lower middle class family like mine, dropping $4,000 for a week at WDW requires careful planning. As I read a long time ago, while most poor schmucks are stopped at the front looking at a map and planning their day, you can be on your first attraction and be well ahead of the crowd for most of the day.

[edit] New pic of castle

I changed the greeting picture of Cindy Castle to an updated, decorated version for the 50th anniversary of Disneyland. I will replace the image with the old image, a plain castle, when the celebration ends. I just feel that, as the information is updated, so should the pictures be, and the images should represent what the subject looks like at that point in time. --Speedway 15:57, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] External links

I just removed these external links from the article:

These are news and fan sites about Disney World. Wikipedia is not a place to link news and fan sites, because if we link any, then we have to link all of them, and there are way too many out there. It's not hard to find news sites or fan sites out there - just use Google, or Dmoz, or any of hundreds of other directories or search engines. I'm deleting these links because they don't directly contribute to anything in the article. If you want to add an External Link to an article on one of these sites that specifically adds more detail to something covered in the article, then that would be fine. (See Wikipedia:External links, specifically the "Maybe OK to add" and "What should not be linked to" sections.) - Brian Kendig 16:56, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Tasmanet (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) keeps adding an external link of little value; typically makes multiple edits within minutes to disguise the change; now being abusive when asked to stop --Whoville 13:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I added them back! I have been to these links when I planned my trip last year, and they provided information on the parks, rides, resorts, etc. they halp plan trips! --72.155.48.210 21:11, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I have to say of all the external links that have been removed from this article. I really think it would be useful to have allearsnet.com added back. Having used the site a number of times, I believe it adds value by being there. Both has a referance and a site with more current information.

Arwen4014 14:19, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changed a few naming conventions

Epcot is just the word Epcot now, not "Epcot Center". "Disney MGM Studios" are proper nouns, so Studios needs to be capatalized. And the Magic Kingdom's real name is the "Magic Kingdom Park". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.195.66.44 (talk • contribs).

Point of clarification: Phrases like "Magic Kingdom Park" and "Disney's Animal Kingdom Theme Park" are strictly Disney conventions for copyright and trademark reasons. Consider that the park guidemap given to millions of guests says only "Magic Kingdom" on the cover. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.195.66.45 (talk • contribs).

"Disney's Animal Kingdom" is widely used; apparently, cast members (employees) are not supposed to use just "Animal Kingdom". --Benjamin Geiger 20:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re-writes/Editing

I've been doing some editing and rewrites on some of the Disney articles, with a focus on this page. A look through the history of this article revealed that it’s a compilation of many layers of information by a multitude of users. Although the information seems right on the money, I felt it sounded a little choppy with a paragraph here and a sentence plastered in there. I've been working to get everything to flow a little better.

I hope no one will take great offense. I'm just an English major and Disney fan who is trying to get this article up to the best quality. I promise to leave the information as is, while trying to make the information all as clear as possible. Thanks Lucky bunni 05:08, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Water Parks

I just reverted an edit that said that there are 3 water parks at WDW. I would presume that this person edited in good faith thinking that River Country is still open (which, of course, it isn't). Just to put my mind at rest, Typhoon Lagoon and Blizzard Beach are the only water parks at WDW, right? KC. 02:09, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes that is correct. River Country has been closed a while now. Dustimagic *\o/* ^{(talk/contribs)} *\o/* 00:19, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Repeated linkspam

There's been a determined effort to plant links to a commercial site about Disney trivia into numerous Wikipedia articles lately. Today was the latest example — a direct link added to this article's External links section and a new entry added to the Development timeline section with a link to one of the site's subpages. A different IP address was warned after adding the same link to dozens of Disney attraction articles a few days ago [1]. Whoville 23:31, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disney template?

Should the general Disney template be added to this page? --Comthought 20:55, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Osbourne Family Spectacle of Lights

I'm a Florida resident and last I checked the Spectacle of Lights had nothing to do with the Osbourne Family. I'm suspecting vandalism, but I couldn't find where it had been added in the history, so I didn't want to take it out in case it was legit. Someone should check up on that.

Nope! It is correct. :) --Comthought 07:08, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the original poster is right. The spectacle of lights does have nothing to do with the Osbourne Family. It has to do with the Osborne family ;) KC. 23:00, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I was referring to phonetics :( --Comthought 02:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rumored 5th park?

Has anyone heard anything about a rumored 5th park? Willshepherdson 04:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Disney CEO Bob Iger has made it clear that international expansion is one of the company's top three priorities. There are no plans for a fifth theme park right now. —Whoville 12:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It could be assumed that the World of Sports is a park, but that's mighty unlikely.

World of Sports is NOT a park.

While a fifth park is not currently in the works, there are several park ideas floating around through WDI (Walt Disney Imagineering) should Bob Iger feel the need to announce and build a fifth. Three ideas that are known to the public include Michael Eisner's failed 'Disney's America' park which was to be built in northern Virginia dealing with the history of America. The second is a Florida version of Tokyo Disneyland's 'Tokyo DisneySea'. The third is the Disney villians park called 'Disney's Shadowlands'; the idea was to create a thrill-ride park for young adults to take away from the impact of Universal's Islands of Adventure. Macg4cubeboy 10:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Park history and development timeline

Do we really want to name individual attractions (Soarin', Cinderellabration, Expedition Everest) opening in the timeline? Seems to me that it should be reserved for larger or WDW-wide events. Comments? --Comthought 13:05, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree. The timeline feels better suited for major resort milestones. —Whoville 22:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Any other comments? Anyone? --Comthought 14:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

The timeline should be specific to the development and expansion of the resort itself, not of individual rides. The ride timelines can be added to each individual park (and/or land) article as appropriate. SpikeJones 15:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Then, shall we remove it? Is that a quorum? :) I've noticed that someone just added MORE rides to the timeline... --Comthought 13:01, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Anyone? --Comthought 22:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Resort location

I've noticed a recent edit on one of the WDW pages to put the location of (whatever it was) at Bay Lake, Florida. So now we have at least three different locations for WDW: Orlando, Florida, Bay Lake, Florida, and Lake Buena Vista, Florida. We should be consistent and select one official city to be listed as WDW's home -- but do we go with the general touristy "Orlando" that everybody already knows and loves, or with LBV, which is WDW's official mailing address? I think Bay Lake is an interesting sidenote to its place in WDW's governance, but shouldn't be listed as an official WDW location. SpikeJones 15:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Orlando is just wrong — none of the resort is within the city limits. (Any reference should say near Orlando.) Of the other two, Lake Buena Vista is used more often to denote the resort's location. The main WDW article could contain a section explaining Lake Buena Vista and Bay Lake as part of a larger discussion of Reedy Creek Improvement District, perhaps. —Whoville 16:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticisms

I've been there, and they don't enforce safety much. I have also read the Death stories and I thought I would put this article here so others could know. If I'm missing anything, let me know.

Thanks,
--Firewire 22:32, 11 July 2006 (UTC)Firewire

I've been there, and they don't enforce safety much. Read WP:NPOV. The fact that deaths have occurred at WDW isn't unique or necessarily indicative of a poor safety record. Nor is the fact that lawsuits have been filed over those deaths. —Whoville 00:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Tickets

Please explain to me what part the information on the largest purchaser of disney tickets was spam? It was factual information that had a cited source and it pointed to an internal article, not an external website. Someone please explain that????? User:Geniusboy

From WP:SPAM:

Review your intentions. Wikipedia is not a space for personal promotion or the promotion of products, services, Web sites, fandoms, ideologies, or other memes. If you're here to tell readers how great something is, or to get exposure for an idea or product that nobody's heard of yet, you're in the wrong place. Likewise, if you're here to make sure that the famous Wikipedia cites you as the authority on something (and possibly pull up your sagging PageRank) you'll probably be disappointed.

Your edit history, your defense of OrlandoAreaGuide.com (which you have claimed to manage) and your now-deleted Global hummer article suggest to me that you lack perspective about what's appropriate for a resource like Wikipedia. You seem determined to use Wikipedia as a vehicle for advertising your business and have evolved from simply inserting external links to crafting editorial copy that is little more than promotion for your companies. —Whoville 09:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Did you also note my contributions to and editorial corrections to articles on Jamaica and the numerous positive editorial corrections that were made to Wikipedia from our IP address. Not because the information is commercial means that it is inaccurate or innapropriate. The entire Walt Disney World page is commercial...and I know that it is edited by internal Disney entities as well. Wikipedia continues to allow the promotion of commercial entities...we live in a commercial world so get used to it! The real litmus test is whether the information is useful to users especially for research purposes. To continually block certain entities, regardless of the nature of their information is counterproductive and childish...and since when does one improve one's "sagging PageRank" by creating internal links within Wikipedia.

From WP:SPAM

There are often better alternatives to canvassing. For example, suppose you've written a cool new article, and you want lots of people to read it. Simply add links to it from other encyclopedia articles, where it is relevant, and also add it to appropriate categories. This increases the exposure of your article, while simultaneously benefiting the encyclopedia

Contribute cited text, not bare links. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia

Now explain to me, what part of what I wrote was not compliant with these rules? User:Geniusboy (talk)

[edit] Ticket pricing

I have removed the section on ticket pricing because this information is likely to change faster than we can keep it updated. It also seems more appropriate to a travel guide than to an encyclopedia article. If anyone cares to maintain this information, Wikitravel might be a better place to do so. Or just a link to an official pricing page seems quite sufficient.

If someone wants to add information about how ticket pricing has changed over time, or how it compares to other theme parks around the world, that would be more encyclopedic.

-- Beland 22:03, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I believe they only change prices once or twice every year, which wouldn't be too quick to update, but you're right that it doesn't belongInvisibleman5108026 05:09, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

This article has nothing negative whatsoever to say about Disney World. I'm sure many people have criticized it over the years; it would be more balanced to include a sampling of notable opinions. -- Beland 22:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

 there a article about deaths in walt disney world which most of them arent even disneys to blame it hasent been criticized for a thing

[edit] Map request

It is requested that a map or maps be included in this article to improve its quality.
Wikipedians in Florida may be able to help!

It would be helpful to have a map showing where Disney-owned properties are with respect to neighboring municipalities, and where the major parks and attractions are. -- Beland 22:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ocoee

According to many advertisements, brochures, etc. I have seen, they all claim Disney World is located in Ocoee, Florida. The article simply states 'being in Orange County'. Can anyone confirm this? My hotel in Ocoee (I happen to be in Florida) has a big poster outside of my door saying it's the home of Disney World, Sea World, etc. Øřêōş 17:40, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Walt Disney World Resort is not in Ocoee. The property mostly is within the southwestern corner of Orange County, although a small portion (the All-Star resorts and the Wide World of Sports facilities) is in Osceola County. Lake Buena Vista, a community within Orange County, generally is used as the resort's mailing address. (None of the resort is within Orlando city limits.) Any claim that Ocoee is the "home" of Walt Disney World Resort probably is just marketing hyperbole aimed at tourists. —Whoville 18:04, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture of Partners

I don't usually comment on the editing of articles because I usually find the differences that people argue about usually boil down to style choice, and that doesn't bother me. But in this case, there is a mistake that should be fixed. The photo of the "Partners" statue is labeled as being from Magic Kingdom, when one can clearly tell the castle in the photo is Sleeping Beauty's castle from Disneyland, decorated for the 50th. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.6.9.83 (talk) 22:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Article could use a thorough rehab.

This isn't a particularly bad article, such as the Disney's California Adventure one for example, but it isn't exactly a Featured Article candidate either.

It has too many lists, and the 'popular attractions' part is essentially superfluous. It feels like someone put it there just to make the article longer. It doesn't add anything interesting.
Only the history section is truly interesting. However, it needs subheadings and a clearer hierarchy.
It lacks proper sources.
It's full of peacock words, which render the article too chirpy and fan site-ish to be taken seriously. Example: "It even has its own fire department!". This should be integrated someplace relevant in a neutral manner. - SergioGeorgini 22:37, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Popular Attractions

many of the popular attractions listed are from disney land not disney world. pirates of the caribbean is in disney land, so is the haunted mansion

Perhaps you should visit WDW - they have a Pirates of the Caribbean, and a Haunted Mantion too. :) --Mwongozi 12:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Walt Disney World Info box

Does anyone else think that the new info box is a horrible, horrible shade of bright green and needs to be rethought? Rmkf1982 | Talk 23:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it's pretty lurid isn't it? --Mwongozi 13:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

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