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Welcome to the Classical warfare task force of the Military history WikiProject!

The CWTF is a group of Wikipedians interested in improving the quality, coverage, and consistency of articles about "classical warfare" in Wikipedia. This means that we are focused on the military history of the civilizations which occupied the Mediterranean basin during classical antiquity (c. 700 BC–c. 500 AD), with an emphasis on Ancient Greece, and Ancient Rome, although other civilizations (such as the Carthaginians) also fall within this scope.

We are part of the larger Military history WikiProject, coordinating our efforts with other task forces and with people who are interested in the general WikiProject, as well as contributing to the project in general.

Contents 1 Scope 2 Participants 3 Tagging and assessment 4 Naming conventions 4.1 Greeks, Phoenicians, and Punics 4.2 Romans 5 Templates 6 Categories 6.1 General/uncategorized 6.2 Ancient Greece 6.3 Ancient Rome 6.4 Carthage 7 To-do 7.1 General tasks 7.2 Pages needing attention 7.3 Articles lacking infoboxes 7.3.1 Wars of Ancient Greece 7.3.2 Wars of Ancient Rome 8 Resources 8.1 Annotated bibliography 8.1.1 Rome 8.1.2 Samnite Wars 8.1.3 Punic Wars 8.2 Downloadable public domain books 8.2.1 Greece 8.2.2 Rome 8.3 Online Texts (readable/not downloadable) 8.4 Websites 8.5 E-text sources

[edit] Scope

This task force covers the military history of the Mediterranean civilizations of classical antiquity (c. 700 BC–c. 500 AD), in particular those of Ancient Greece and Rome. For later events, such as the military history of the Byzantine Empire, please refer to the Medieval warfare task force.

[edit] Participants

Please remember to also add your name to the main list of project members if you are not yet listed there.

1. Bebop123 (talk • contribs) (Classical Greece, Alexander, the Hellenistic Age, and the Roman Republic)
2. Caliga10 (talk • contribs) (Roman warfare)
3. Captain panda (talk • contribs) (Weapons of Classical Warfare and Barbarians)
4. Dachspmg (talk • contribs) (Classical Greece and Rome from 490 BC on, esp. the Wars of the Diadochi)
5. Drungarios (talk • contribs) (Warfare/Battles of the Classical, Hellenistic, and Roman eras)
6. Dryzen (talk • contribs)
7. False Prophet (talk • contribs) (End of Greek golden age, and Alexander the Great, some Roman empire)
8. Flamarande (talk • contribs)
9. Gala.martin (talk • contribs) (mainly Roman warfare and Greek war-tech)
10. GeorgeAlden (talk • contribs) (Hellenistic warfare mainly)
11. Hoplita (talk • contribs) (Roman & Greek Warfare - units, tactics, battles & Rulers/Emperors)
12. Huigh4444 (talk • contribs) (Ancient Rome)
13. Ikokki (talk • contribs) (Greek history)
14. Insane99 (talk • contribs) (Wars of the Middle Roman Empire, Punic Wars)
15. Jacob Haller (talk • contribs) (Late Antiquity; no interest in classical warfare as such)
16. J.StuartClarke (talk • contribs) (Early Roman Empire warfare in particular - Augustus to Trajan)
17. King Alaric (talk • contribs) (Punic wars especially Battles of the second Punic war.)
18. Ktsquare (talk • contribs)
19. Kyriakos (talk • contribs) (Ancient Greek warfare)
20. Laserbeamcrossfire (talk • contribs) (Ancient Greece & Alexander, Roman Warfare)
21. Malastare (talk • contribs) (most Roman conflicts, Alexander, tactics, esp. in the phalanx)
22. MarcellusTheExile (talk • contribs) (Roman warfare, I should hope)
23. Maximilli (talk • contribs) (Mostly Spartan, Athenian & Corinthian politics and warfare in the 6th-4th centuries BC)
24. Mhaesen (talk • contribs)
25. Mike Gehlsen (talk • contribs) (Roman and Greek Tactics.)
26. Neddyseagoon (talk • contribs)
27. Nik Sage (talk • contribs) (Greek warfare (esp. weaponry, tactics and battles), Macedonian army, Roman warfare (mainly Republican).
28. Oldwindybear (talk • contribs)
29. PocklingtonDan (talk • contribs) (Roman warfare)
30. RLoughins (talk • contribs) (Roman military during the Republic and early empire; 5th Century BC Greek warfare)
31. Robth (talk • contribs) (Hellenic period Greece, for the most part.)
32. Scholarus (talk • contribs) (Alexander the Great, also Greek & Roman tactics and warfare)
33. Secutor7 (talk • contribs) (Carthage, Rome, Germanic tribes - warfare and politics)
34. Semperf (talk • contribs) (Roman history)
35. Tevus (talk • contribs)
36. Tomdidiot (talk • contribs) (Rome and Alexander's Successors)
37. UnDeadGoat (talk • contribs) (Roman Republic, some Empire)
38. Vedexent (talk • contribs)
39. Yannismarou (talk • contribs) (Mostly ancient Greek military history)

[edit] Tagging and assessment

Classical warfare task force assessment statistics Classical warfare articles Importance None Total Quality FA 15 15 A 4 4 GA 3 3 B 135 135 Start 278 278 Stub 345 345 Assessed 780 780 Unassessed 0 0 Total 780 780 worklist • log • category

Any article related to this task force should be marked by adding Classical-task-force=yes to the {{WPMILHIST}} project banner at the top of its talk page (see the project banner instructions for more details on the exact syntax). This will automatically place it into Category:Classical warfare task force articles.

[edit] Naming conventions

[edit] Greeks, Phoenicians, and Punics

Where a single name is shared by multiple individuals, one of four options (given in order of priority) may be used to disambiguate them in the article title:

1. If the individuals have commonly accepted additional names, epiphets, or numerical designations, these should be added directly to the name. For example, Ptolemy I Soter, Ptolemy II Philadelphus or Hamilcar Barca.
2. If the individuals are part of a dynasty or family with a known name, that name may be added in parentheses after theirs. For example, Hamilcar (Gesco) or Hanno (Barcid).
3. If the birth and death dates of the individual, or the dates in which he held some particular office, are known, they may be added in parentheses after the name. For example, Bostar (200 BC-140 BC) or Hanno (strategus 200 BC).
4. As a last resort, profession, home country, or relation to other figures may be used as a parenthesized disambiguator. For example, Hanno (trader from Carthage) or Sophonosbe (wife of Syphax).

In the article itself, the correct naming conventions of the respective culture should be used. In case of Phoenicians and Punics this means mentioning at least the name and sometimes the title of the father (leading government members and military commanders) for males and unmarried females and of the husband for married females. Additionally, the name of the mother (what can include her fathers and mothers, and their ancestors, etc.) can be listed for both sexes and in case of wifes the name and the title of the father can still be listed; or, in some cases the father is listed with his father, thus deriving forms such as "Hanno, son of the Rab Hasdrubal, son of the Sufet Hannibal" or "Adelphasium, wife of Hanno, daughter of the Rab Adherbal". Furthermore the name of the mother can be listed for males and females. Phoenician and Punic inscriptions can be used to verify the appropriate use; if no inscriptions are available, use the possible minimum.

[edit] Romans

[edit] Templates

• {{User WPMILHIST Classical warfare task force}} - a userbox for task force members.
• {{AncientRome-battle-stub}}
• Many of the campaignboxes listed here.
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[edit] Categories

Note: some of these are now red links due to the recent change of category names from eg "Battle of X" to "Battle involving X". DO NOT CREATE categories listed as red links, they exist already in a corrected form.

[edit] General/uncategorized

[edit] Ancient Greece

Category:Wars involving ancient Greece

• Category:Battles involving ancient Greece
  • Category:Battles of Alexander the Great
  • Category:Battles involving Athens
  • Category:Battles of the Greco-Persian Wars
  • Category:Battles involving the Seleucid Empire
  • Category:Battles of the Diadochi
  • Category:Battles involving Macedon
  • Category:Battles of the Peloponnesian War
  • Category:Battles involving Sparta
  • Category:Battles involving Syracuse
  • Category:Battles involving Thebes
• Category:Battles of the Greco-Persian Wars
• Category:Ancient Greek generals
• Category:Peloponnesian War
  • Category:Battles of the Peloponnesian War

[edit] Ancient Rome

• Category:Military history of ancient Rome
  • Category:Wars involving Ancient Rome
    • Category:Battles involving Rome
    • Category:Wars involving the Roman Republic
      • Category:Battles involving the Roman Republic
    • Category:Wars involving the Roman Empire
      • Category:Battles involving the Roman Empire
  • Category:Roman awards and decorations
  • Category:Roman frontiers
  • Category:Roman generals
    • Category:Roman generals killed in action
  • Category:Roman legions
• Category:Ancient Roman battle stubs
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[edit] Carthage

• Category:Wars involving Carthage
• Category:Battles involving Carthage

[edit] To-do

[edit] General tasks

• Tag articles with our notice template.
• Improve the general quality of existing Wikipedia articles that cover aspects of "classical warfare" (through better organization, citations, references, illustrations, maps, etc.).
• Expand the coverage of classical warfare in Wikipedia by the creation of new articles and new categories.
• Create more consistent presentation of articles through the incorporation of standard templates, infoboxes, and layouts in articles about classical warfare.
• Coordinate the efforts of the task force with the rest of the Military history WikiProject.
• Locate, evaluate, and share reference materials, either published ("Bibliography"), or electronic. (Note that as we deal with ancient history, many books on the subject are available online and in download format. We are a task force that should be able to locate a great deal of "free" reference material).
• Many of the individual legion articles (see List of Roman legions) require unit infoboxes
• Many of the legions had multiple names, especially the legions disbanded under Caesar and reconstituted under Augustus. Stub #REDIRECT pages can be made for these names.
• Research, research, research! - we need listing of reference material for the Legions, and batles. Secondary sources are great, but a listing of primary ancient sources would be excellent as well. As these are available online, links to relevant sections (possibly in Wikisource?) for readers to follow up on, would be great.
• There are many missing battles. Such should be listed here, and on the main list for wanted battles.
• Scope out the other task force pages, and adapt useful "custom" sections in their project pages for use here :-)
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[edit] Pages needing attention

• Lucullus, a major military figure, needs more information on his part in the Third Mithridatic War, and more info generally. Neddyseagoon 16:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon
• Caesar's invasions of Britain has reached B-class, has narrowly failed one A-class review, and just needs a bit more work before being put forward for A-class again. Neddyseagoon - talk 12:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
• The Roman war against Antiochus III needs to be better covered. The existing information is just a stub. I don't know if this is the technical name for the conflict, but that's how it is referred to elsewhere on WikiPedia. The Romans referred to it as the Syrian War, not to be confused with the actual Syrian Wars, because they were fighting Syrians (Seleucids of Syria). There is some information on the war in Antiochus III's entry. -Bebop123 26 October 2006
• Barbarian armies get very little coverage. There is a new stub for Gothic armies but not the wide variety of pages, categories, cross-references, etc. available for (e.g.) the Roman army. These also spill over the Classical/Medieval boundary. Jacob Haller 07:47, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Articles lacking infoboxes

These articles lack military conflict infoboxes. Some articles may not yet be large enough to need such a box yet, however, as a "warbox" is not compulsory for small articles.

[edit] Wars of Ancient Greece

• Messenian Wars

[edit] Wars of Ancient Rome

• Roman conquest of Britain - may need more general work; multiple wars, innappropriate for campaign box?

[edit] Resources

[edit] Annotated bibliography

Please use the following format when adding works:

* <!-- bibliographical infomation -->
**Content:
*** <!-- Optional content summary -->
** Reviews: 
*** <!-- commentary on work by historians & other reputable sources -->
** Editor evaluation: 
*** <!-- personal commentary by editors -->

[edit] Rome

• Boatwright, Mary T., Gargola, Daniel J., Talbert, Richard J. A. The Romans: From Village to Empire (2004)
  • Content:
  • Reviews:
  • Editor evaluation:
    • A general history, not specific in all military details but immensely useful for things like creating military conflict infoboxes on wars that have somehow escaped them. Used it as a starting point in Jugurthine War (in progress).

[edit] Samnite Wars

Secondary sources

• E.T. Salmon, Samnium and the Samnites London and New York: Cambridge U.P, 1967.
  • Content: a history of Samnium and its peoples under the Romans
  • Reviews:
  • Editor evaluation:
    • A first rate scholarly work. Semperf 16:57, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Punic Wars

Secondary sources

• Dexter Hoyos, Hannibal's dynasty London and New York: Routledge, 2003. ISBN 0-415-35958-9
  • Content:
  • Reviews:
  • Editor evaluation:
    • Secondary source on the role of the whole family of Hamilcar Barca (Hannibal is the most famous offspring) with an excellent bibliography. Strongly recommended. Wandalstouring 11:17, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

• Gregory Daly, Cannae London and New York: Routledge, 2002. ISBN 0-415-32743-1
  • Content:
  • Reviews:
  • Editor evaluation:
    • Secondary source on the battle of Cannae with a detailed research of the background and a very critical analyzation of the the sources and an excellent bibliography. Strongly recommended. Wandalstouring 11:17, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

• Nigel Bagnall, The Punic Wars London: Pimlico, 1990. ISBN 0-712-66608-7
  • Content:
  • Reviews:
  • Editor evaluation:
    • In some cases lacking research on known military concepts, problems and tactics during the time of the Punic Wars surfaces. This leads to erroneous statements. Information should be counterchecked with independent sources before stating them like facts. It is useful for background information on military institutions and other common problems of warfare. Wandalstouring 11:17, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Downloadable public domain books

[edit] Greece

• Lytton, Edward Bulwer, Athens: Its Rise and Fall, Complete.
• Herodotus
  • The history of Herodotus — Volume 1
  • The history of Herodotus — Volume 2
• Smith, William, "A Smaller history of Greece from the earliest times to the Roman conquest".
• Thucydides, "History of the Peloponnesian War" (translated by Richard Crawley).

[edit] Rome

• Beesley, A.H., The Gracchi Marius and Sulla (Epochs of Ancient History) (1921). Useful topics: The Roman Army, Saturninus And Drusus, The Social War, Sulpicius, Marius And Cinna, The First Mithridatic War, Sulla In Greece And Asia, Sulla In Italy.
• Gibbon, Edward, 1737-1794
  • History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire — Volume 1 (English)
  • History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire — Volume 2 (English)
  • History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire — Volume 3 (English)
  • History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire — Volume 4 (English)
  • History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire — Volume 5 (English)
  • History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire — Volume 6 (English)
• Livius, Titus
  • The History of Rome, Books 09 to 26
  • The History of Rome, Books 27 to 36
  • Roman History, Books I-III Roman History, Books I-III
• Mommsen, Theodor, 1817-1903
  • "The History of Rome, Books I-V", 1903
  • "The History of Rome, Book I: The Period Anterior to the Abolition of the Monarchy", 1903
  • "The History of Rome, Book II: From the Abolition of the Monarchy in Rome to the Union of Italy ", 1903
  • "The History of Rome, Book III: From the Union of Italy to the Subjugation of Carthage and the Greek States", 1903
  • "The History of Rome, Book IV: The Revolution ", 1903
  • "The History of Rome, Book V: The Establishment of the Military Monarchy", 1903
• Morey, William C., Ph.D., D.C.L., "Outlines of Roman History", New York, Cincinnati, Chicago: American Book Company (1901).
• Pennell, Robert Franklin, "Ancient Rome : from the earliest times down to 476 A. D"
• Renatus, Flavius Vegetius, "The Military Institutions of the Romans". Translations by Lieutenant John Clarke.
• Taylor, William C., "History of Rome". Philadelphia:Thomas, Cowperthwait & Co. (1851).

• All of Plutarch's lives can be found at classics.mit.edu (could be expanded to refernce individual volumes).

[edit] Online Texts (readable/not downloadable)

• The Perseus Project has a massive collection of texts, both Greek and Roman. Among the most useful:
  • Diodorus Siculus, Library
  • Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War
  • Xenophon, Hellenica
• Attalus: Not a reference by itself, but a list of events in Greek, Roman, and Mediterranean history, year-by-year in rough chronological order within that year, with those events massively referenced themselves. It is sort of a "meta-index" of event-specific references, with many of the references linked directly to online versions of the text. An invaluable online historical research tool!
• "Notitia Dignitatum" Our article about this famous list of the later roman army has a few good links to the document.
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[edit] Websites

Note: Websites should be avoided as sources if at all possible, as their veracity is questionable. They make good "starting points", but facts in articles should be tracable to a published work of some type.

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[edit] E-text sources

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