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[edit] Article organisation
[edit] Character articles
Proposal:
- All characters that have some sort of worthwhile content in the books appear in Discworld characters
- Only the primary characters in a book are allowed their own articles
- Secondary characters appear in the book's article
- A brief overview of primary and recurring secondary characters appear in the specific article (eg. Witches (Discworld), Dwarfs (Discworld))
- Other characters appear in Minor Discworld characters
Discussion
[edit] Location articles
Proposal:
- Discworld (world) is an overview of the world and should contain the main information
- The countries of the Discworld have their own article
- Individual cities within those countries have their own article if they are described fully enough (Ankh-Morpork, Lancre, etc.), otherwise they appear in the country article
- Likewise, individual places within those cities have their own article only if they are described fully enough (Unseen University, etc.)
Discussion
[edit] Mort
Can Mort the book (currently at Mort (novel)) be at Mort? No disambig needed right now, and if the character and book are to be described in the same article... hfool/Wazzup? 03:38, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I wrote a bit of an explanation of my thinking. Then I thought it probably is best at Mort with the character at Mort (Discworld). I'll get on to it when I get back later. violet/riga (t) 11:59, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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- Follow-up, for 2 points: Does Hex_(Discworld) count as a character (for templates, mind you)? hfool/Roast me 01:03, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I reckon so - other than getting into some huge AI awareness/life debate I think that all the information on that template can be filled. violet/riga (t) 09:44, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Follow-up, for 2 points: Does Hex_(Discworld) count as a character (for templates, mind you)? hfool/Roast me 01:03, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Incorrect translated titles
When looking the titles for the translations for differnet languages on for exemple The Colour of Magic I saw that the Swedish title was incorrecrtly capitalised (the correct is "Magins färg"). Now I have no idea about capitlisation rules in other languages than Swedish and English. It would be nice if we could fix these somehow. - Jeltz talk 20:25, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Should we use English capitalisation or not in this case? Currently there is a mix of both. - Jeltz talk 20:39, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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- I have no idea about capitalisation in the other languages and have kept away from the translation section so far. Perhaps the editor that placed them there got them from another source – I'll take a look and see if I can find anything about this. violet/riga (t) 21:43, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I have put the following into the articles for the first three books:
| The Italian translation was published as part of I Colori della Magia (lit: The Colours of the Magic), a trilogy comprising of Il Colore di Magia (lit: The Colour of Magic), La Luce Fantastica (lit The Fantastic Light) and L’Arte della Magia (lit: The Art of Magic).
Sources: Colin Smythe Ltd, Babelfish translation. |
An interesting piece of trivia is the French translations of these titles:
- The Colour of Magic = La Huitième Couleur — (lit: "The Eighth Colour").
- The Light Fantastic = Le Huitième Sortilège - (lit: "The Eighth Magic Spell").
- Equal Rites = La Huitième Fille (lit: "The Eighth Daughter")
All on the theme of the number eight as in Octarine, Octavo, etc.
I also like the play on words in the title of Wyrd Sisters French translation: Trois Sœurcières. Trois Sorcières translates as "Three Witches", and Sœur means "sister".
[edit] External links
I've noticed (and fixed) several links to lspace.org pages that led to the www.ie.lspace.org subdomain, rather than the more generic www.lspace.org one. The latter is preferred for loadbalancing and the like, and redirects to an appropriate server. See also its mirrors page. Joeno 15:45, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Infobox book covers
Is it ok to just grab all of them from amazon.co.uk? Orange Goblin 21:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
- I think that it could eb alright. I think that Amazon doesn't own the rights other than that thney are allowed to use them. I don't think that they really can complain but some other source could be better to use (like lspace). I don't know that much about copyrights but I would say that this it is fair use to show an image of the cover in an artcile about the book. I suggest that it might be better to grab them from lspace though. They might have higher image quality. Jeltz talk 14:09, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
- Looks like they are ok with people taking the images from lspace, but take no responsiblity if you get sued, which is unlikely to happen. Now the question is, which image to use? The hardback and paperback images are often different. The hardbacks came first, but sometimes the paperback images are nicer, so I am undecided... Orange Goblin 14:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
- I'm going to go ahead and add some of the images from lspace. Orange Goblin 10:15, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
- Looks like they are ok with people taking the images from lspace, but take no responsiblity if you get sued, which is unlikely to happen. Now the question is, which image to use? The hardback and paperback images are often different. The hardbacks came first, but sometimes the paperback images are nicer, so I am undecided... Orange Goblin 14:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
- I'm going to make the book covers bigger. It's hard to make out the artwork - especially with the ones wher the image is between TERRY and PRATCHETT, like Thief of Time. Other pages concerning books like Pride and Prejudice and The Name of the Rose feature larger cover art. Eldestone 10:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Maps and Diaries etc
What about some of the other books etc that have been released to coincide with the Discworld series? I'm referring particularly to the various maps, diaries and Nanny Ogg's Cook Book. Where do they fit in? -- Francs2000 | Talk 
01:33, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Death Speaks
In the Discworld books Death talks in small caps. At present there is no automatic way to do this in the wiki markup.
It is possible though, with a little patience. Any quotes by Death are typed in capitals, and then enclosed with <small> and </small> tags, with the exception of what would normally be capital letters.
- I WAS SURPRISED THAT YOU JOSTLED ME, RINCEWIND, FOR I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT WITH THEE THIS VERY NIGHT.*
This can be achieved with the following markup:
I<small> WAS SURPRISED THAT YOU JOSTLED ME, </small>R<small>INCEWIND, FOR </small>I<small> HAVE AN APPOINTMENT WITH THEE THIS VERY NIGHT.</small>
I'm not sure how many quotes by Death are in Wikipedia articles, nor if there is any plan to include any, but I thought it would be useful to standardise them.
*When Death speaks, quote marks are not used.
-=# Amos E Wolfe talk #=- 01:35, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
This is the wrong way of doing it in my oppinion. We should use CSS for this which I have used in the Discworld article and at Death (Discworld). My solution is much easier to convert if Wikipedia implements markup for small caps. This also requires less patience in, at least for me. :)
I was surprised that you jostled me, Rincewind, for I have an appointment with thee this very night.
<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">I was surprised that you jostled me, Rincewind, for I have an appointment with thee this very night.</span>
It might be nice to use a font with serifs here too but it could be considered as doing too much styling of the text. But it looks better at least in the default Wikipedia skin in Firefox.
I was surprised that you jostled me, Rincewind, for I have an appointment with thee this very night.
<span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:serif">I was surprised that you jostled me, Rincewind, for I have an appointment with thee this very night.</span>
Jeltz talk 08:52, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Discworld Wiki
A new Discworld-related wiki has been started, hosted at Lspace.org:
A couple of Wikipedia users have already found it and registered. We hope to see you all over there really soon.
- -=# Amos E Wolfe talk #=- 01:00, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Articles for the Wikipedia 1.0 project
Hi, I'm a member of the Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing using these criteria, and we are looking for A-Class and good B-Class articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Can you recommend any suitable articles on Discworld? We are also looking for featured articles. Please post your suggestions here. Cheers!--Shanel 21:09, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] IPA Pronunciations
While browsing some of the Discworld articles, I noticed that there were pronunciation guides not written in the IPA. Being unfamiliar with IPA, I feel unable to correct them, however they probably should be done. Two I noticed were Lancre and Magrat Garlick. QmunkE 10:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Project Directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:
- User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
- User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
- User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
- User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
- User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
- User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
- User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
- User:Badbilltucker/Science directory
and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] New WikiProject: Wikipedia:WikiProject Science Fiction
To give some coherency to the many little sf-oriented communities on Wikipedia.--ragesoss 20:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A Discworld Portal...
... has been created at Portal:Discworld (where else?). Although the foundations have been laid, it sill needs work. Tompw (talk) 21:45, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
