Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United Nations
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[edit] Structure
- Why not use the UN System chart as a starting point for structuring? Each body deals with a range of issues, each subsidiary body does the same. For example: the Economic and Social Council deals with population, narcotics, women, social development and so on. The commission for social development deals with the following issues: eradication of poverty, microcredit, youth employment, cooperatives, report of the world social situation, family, disability, youth and ageing. Related articles would be placed under these themes. Same process for the other UN bodies, offices and programmes. Articles that mention inter-agency cooperation (for example: UNFPA and work of the Permanent Forum on indigenous issues) could be placed under inter-agency cooperation with sub-categories: like HIV/AIDS, women, family, youth. In the same inter-agency cooperation, would suggest to add the millennium development goals section with sub-categories for each goal. This would also apply for the UN resolutions listing. What do you think? --Angelikmeg 03:41, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] UN Offices/Officials Infobox
We need to create an infobox for both specific offices (UNSG, Deputy SG, Under SG for Peacekeeping, UNHCR) and individiual office holders (Annan, Ban, Migiro, Montas) of the UN system. I am new at wikiprogramming, and would encourage someone else to take it up. If this doesn't happen in the near future, I may give it a try. I have written up the Deputy SG article and ones for the current UN Spokesperson and Chef de Cabinet. Tfleming 18:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not that good at infoboxes, either. =( I'll see what help I can get from other Wikipedians, as not much discussion takes place in this WikiProject. I think we also might need some infoboxes for meetings/assemblies/summits of the UN. I'm creating a list of infoboxes needed for this WikiProject. Feel free to add anything as needed. I plan on making a to-do list for this Project in the near future, but my time is limited because I'm on semi-Wikibreak for my semestral exams. =) Ed ¿Cómo estás?Reviews? 02:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Infoboxes needed
- UN offices (ex. United Nations Secretary-General)
- UN officials (ex. Ban Ki-moon
- Meetings/assemblies/summits/sessions (ex. Millennium Summit)
[edit] Status of UN Human Rights Council
Why isn't the new Human Rights Council included in the project template? Thanks. --Tjss(Talk) 21:55, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Project directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Article request
Someone may want to create an article for the following:
- Dr. Fereydoun Hoveyda, 82, Syrian-born former Iranian ambassador to the United Nations.
He recently died. -FateSmiled&DestinyLaughed 21:06, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
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- I think I'll take that up --Sharz 04:22, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 23:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] question
I realise that this page may be quite inactive, but I'll give it a try. Is it good practice to add honorific titles such as "His Excellency" before the names of world leaders? Please refer to List of delegates to the Millennium Summit--Ed ¿Cómo estás?Reviews? 03:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- I suggest you look at Wikipedia:Manual of Style, especially Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Honorific_prefixes. My own interpretation (I don't claim to be an expert on this!) would be that the honorific title can be used in such places as the List of delegates to the Millennium Summit but should not be used in the title of a biographical article. For example, see Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom, which does not include "Her Majesty" either in the title of the article, or at the beginning of the first sentence. Kahuzi 08:20, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- I just realized that I might have been using the honorifics, especially with the "Sir"s. To avoid complications, I guess I should just remove all of them.--Ed ¿Cómo estás?Reviews? 23:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Diplomatic incidents
Category:Diplomatic incidents has very recently come into being, and has a mere two articles located within it. As an active member of WikiProject Military history, and someone interested in politics and diplomacy in general, I have for some time wondered about better categorization of those events which, though not military in nature, have crucial effects upon diplomacy. There are already complex trees of categories for terrorism, state terrorism, assassinations, and the history of foreign relations of many separate countries, but I still think it may prove useful, and pertinent, to create, and populate a complex of categories for diplomatic incidents, and particularly for events which, even when not directly "military" or "diplomatic" in nature, have profound effects upon those spheres. (Some examples include the sinking of the RMS Lusitania, the USS Maine, the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, the kidnapping of several Israeli soldiers last year, and the Namamugi Incident, just to name a few.) Thoughts, ideas, suggestions? How might we best label these articles so as to indicate their roles in spurring greater diplomatic or military events? Thank you. LordAmeth 17:37, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- First and foremost, we must define the term "Diplomatic incidents". Does this mean the arrest of a diplomat? An attack on an embassy? Assasination of a diplomat? An event that causes a conflict between two states/countries/nations? Embargo on trade? No matter what the answer is, it is clear that we must define the category on great detail.--Ed ¿Cómo estás? 02:07, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- lol. I had a sense I'd get such a response from posting on the UN WikiProject. I'm a pre-modern historian, so I'm not talking about such tightly defined formal legal definitions as have arisen in modern times, regarding the modern forms of embassies, diplomats, formal embargoes as declared by UN Resolutions... I'm talking about events, violent or not, which have a dramatic negative or tumultuous/disruptive effect upon international relations disproportionate to the extent of the events themselves. These can range from the sinking of merchant vessels, hostage taking, kidnappings, assassinations, terrorism of various sorts, to cultural misunderstandings.
President Bush vomiting at a formal dinner with the Japanese government is an incident of a diplomatic nature (though I'm not sure if it's a notable enough event that it has its own article). The Namamugi Incident of 1862, in which an Englishman was killed, and war broke out between Japan and England, all because the Englishman did not observe the proper Japanese cultural protocol of dismounting and bowing when a feudal lord (daimyo) passed by with his procession. Another fine example is in the early 1600s when the Japanese shogunate refuses to use Chinese imperial calendar years in correspondence with Korea, thus implicitly denying the cultural or political superiority of China - this was fully unacceptable to Korea, and diplomatic overtures were rejected. This, too, is an "incident" of a diplomatic nature. And in all of these cases, it took no more than a single person acting in a manner deemed culturally or politically inappropriate by the other party, which led to serious diplomatic repercussions.
I agree, of course, that some sort of definition is necessary - we must figure out exactly what we should consider a "diplomatic incident". But I think that in the process of doing so, we must be careful not to become too mired in modern-day terminologies or definitions. The UN, and the modern-day system of IR, is only about 60 years old, and does not represent international relations through the ages. LordAmeth 10:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Inactive Project?
I feel that this wikiproject needs to be revived. Discussion has been scarce, and (no offense) some of our articles are horrible. I suggest that we open up a collaboration. We can also create more infoboxes, as suggested above.--Ed ¿Cómo estás? 16:38, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- It looks inactive, even the Sec Gen has not been updated. Also, there is at present no way to categorize which articles have been tagged with {{WikiProject United Nations}}. Chris 07:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)