Talk:William de Braose, 10th Baron Abergavenny
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BrynLlywelyn 11:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)Surely it was William de Braose, 7th Baron Abergavenny who was known as "Gwilym Ddu"? Deb 20:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Hello Deb. Have only just seen your question.
William de Braose, executed at Garth Celyn May 1230, was known in Snowdonia as 'Gwilym Ddu'. See History of Wales, J. E. Lloyd, page 671, notes, for a published reference, but I can cite many more. Gwern y Grog is in the marshland at the bottom of Garth Celyn. Cae Gwilym Ddu, where his body was buried, is approx 2 miles to the west of Garth Celyn, in the direction of Bangor, on a hillside just outside the manor boundary. Your book on the Princesses is excellent by the way. Nadolig Llawen BrynLlywelyn 11:44, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Diolch yn fawr iawn. My book on the Princes is just out, too. I was surprised that this William de Braose had such a bad reputation - I hadn't been aware of that (probably because everyone concentrates on his relationship with Joan, whatever it was). You learn something every day! Deb 11:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
