Talk:Windmill
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Maybe if there was more information about it, it would be great. For example, how it works and how much power it generates.
The article is now very much focusing on US, Chinese windmills are not treated at all, European mills very much underrepresented. The history and development to replace watermills should be added (windmills are one of the main technological breakthrough of the middle ages) Arnoutf 22:38, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
The term “Three sheets to the wind” originated with the windmill and not the sailing world. A windmill typically has four arms or frames in which a sheet of canvas or sail could be attached by the miller to harness the wind. When the wind was light a sheet of canvas was attached to each of the four frames. If the wind was heavy only one canvas was used. If the wind was moderate two opposing sheets of canvas was used to keep the torque in balance. The millers never used just three sheets of canvas. They discovered that using three sheets would cause the building to gyrate uncontrollable and topple over, like a drunken sailor.
I don't know anything myself on the topic, but were windmills really first invented in the 7th century AD? Some other sources state that they were first invented in Babylon 2000 B.C. http://www.energy.iastate.edu/renewable/wind/wem/wem-04_history.html and http://www.newton.mec.edu/Brown/TE/HOT/STUDENTS/BIALECKI/timeline.html
also, while one of the sources cited (http://web.utk.edu/~persian/windmill.htm) has the windmill invented in 7th century A.D. Persia, the other source cited(http://www.catpress.com/bplanet9/eeolica.htm) has it in 17th century B.C. Persian Babylon. I wasn't able to view the third source because it doesn't seem to link to the appropriate page...
RubyDragon 19:34, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Ireland
I read that windmills always spin counter-clockwise, except for in Ireland. Can anyone verify this?
No, that's not true. The majority turn anti-clockwise, but clockwise mills are not uncommon, for a variety of reasons ranging from the ease or difficulty of re-sharpening millstones dressed to turn in one or other direction, to local preference (many windmills in Cambridgeshire, UK, turn clockwise, for example).Ghughesarch 17:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Windmill
As much as I know, and i'm pretty sure the wind mill was created in Persia.
--Who was that, and what basis do you have for your statement? Since I still haven't found any resolution to the invention of windmills, I've re-added the dubious tag. For some reason somebody took it out. RubyDragon 16:00, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I think there is a passage in the Koran where one Persian comes up to the Caliph and offers to build a such a wind-mill. This is, as far as I know, viewed as the first textual evidence that windmills exist.
Any proof on the single-manufacturer in the US, Aermotor? A web check reveals what looks like a LOT of windmill producers...
[edit] Image overdose
As much as I like many pictures on a page, I think this page is a bit over the top heavy on pictures. I would suggest to remove some. (Or add more text). I think the Hessenpark mill (as I see nothing special) may be the first to remove. The UK mill is interesting because of its age. The siberian because of their shape.
The other three are more important (imho) La Mancha because the link to Don Quichotte, The Kinderdijk mills as the Netherlands are most often related to mills; and the Kinderdijk complex is a Unesco world heritage site. The american mill is essential because it illustrates the whole Mills in US section.Arnoutf 19:31, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- I rearranged the images, removed the German one but added a modern example. How's that. Rmhermen 19:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mergefrom Windpump
I think the windpump article could make a nice contribution to this page, while on its own it seems just a bit too small for a full article, therefore I nominated the articles to be merged. Arnoutf 18:38, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- oppose merge. both articles are huge in scope. let them develope. or you could bring whatever material you like into windmill from windpump and let windpump be a subarticle of windmill. cheers. Anlace 19:48, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- oppose merge As Anlace says, there's too much material for one article. Pollinator 03:27, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
- 'Comment Their scope is large, and that may lead to large articles in the future, but currently Windmill is a short, and Windpump a very short article; and both do not seem to expand. Arnoutf 10:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
- oppose merge for the reasons statedOxyman42 00:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism
The Early History section of this page appears to have been vandalized. If there is someone who can remove the silly stuff and put back in whatever was likely there before it would be much appreciated. --Black Orpheus 21:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- I see nothing strange but a very short section. Expansion ok, but to my eyes it looks ok. What do you exactly mean? Arnoutf 21:38, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Done. looking through the page history it seems someone has a history of removing various word and substituting "banana" or "chinaman" or whatever. Will keep an eye on it. Ghughesarch 13:29, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Of course we should they both are still the same topic!
