Talk:Young adult literature

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I just started on this page, and didn't have much time today. If anyone would like to help I'm more than willing to accept. I'd like to have a timeline of some of the more important influences from the beginning of the YA lit genre and some of the main writers who have come out of it, such as Robert Heinlein and Judy Blume. I'd also like to start a list of books, or at least authors with links to outside sources to where the books can be found or at least summaries.--Steeley42 20:55, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)

I added several authors and titles to the list, some classsics and some newbies. Please comment and revise. Also added some publications & the M.A.Edwards award. KTM 15:04, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Added genre fiction section, citing D T Herald, more authors, minor editing. KTM 18:54, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I'll work on the content some, but should there really be this massive list? Shouldn't there be a list of historical turning point / extremely controversial authors? I feel like a comprehensive list should be split out, ala List of children's literature authors (or merged with that list, given the fuzzy borderline), but the utility of this page is limited if it contains a massive collection of authors. I'd like to see more of a timline (Annie on my Mind and I Hadn't Meant to Tell you This; Are you There, God?; Monster) -- books that might have changed the way we think about YA lit. Deborah-jl 18:24, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Added BAA external link, and I recommend reviewing this list of honored authors to see which YA authors are influencing this genre. KennyLucius 18:16, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I think this article is excellent. I would be a good idea to separate the list on its own page. -Acjelen 20:13, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

1 List
2 WikiProject
3 Globalization
4 Juvenile vs YA
5 Vandelism

[edit] List

Per agreement, I've removed the list to its own page. Personally, I'd like to get rid of both list of young adult authors and list of children's literature authors; there's a fuzzy border between them and it seems to me that the list could be much better maintained with categories. Comments? Deborah-jl 15:26, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Categories only work in areas where each item has an article. This is appropriate use of a list. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:02, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

True. Thanks for helping me rethink my fundamental problem with this list, is that there's no criteria for inclusion. It's not bestsellers, or notable enough to get wikipedia articles and therefore category entries, or award winning, or by authors with red hair... it's just a list of books people think of. Can we come up with some meaningful criteria such that -- in theory -- the list could be complete without having entries for every YA book ever published? Deborah-jl _Talk 06:15, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

We could certainly come up with several distinct criteria for inclusion: winning certain awards, common inclusion in the school curriculum for certain years. So far, this article is very U.S.-centric. It would be interesting to find equivalents for other countries and languages. - Jmabel | Talk 03:35, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Definitely! I wish I knew more about non-historical YA lit outside of the US and Britain, but I might be able to recruit people to get more information. Deborah-jl _Talk 00:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

I just popped in and found your list of young adult literature authors. Personally, I find it very useful to have these authors listed separately. As a librarian in a brand-new intermediate school (6th and 7th grades), I find it very useful to have so I can not only research what books to get, but also in building a page on our website where kids can look up their favorite authors. This helps me tremendously in putting this page together. Young adult literature is most often lumped together with children's literature (which of course includes picture books), and separating them out is a big task. --SharonW

[edit] WikiProject

Is there any interest here in a WikiProject for the family of articles comprising children's and young adult literature coverage? I've made a proposal for a WikiProject, and I encourage people to view my proposal, edit it if they like, and sign up. It would be great to put an organised effort into rethinking these pages.

Wikipedia:Wikiproject/List_of_proposed_projects#Children.27s_Literature

Deborah-jl _Talk 06:15, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Globalization

Please see my post at Talk:Children's_literature#Globalization for reasons for this tag, as well as suggestions about which works to add to solve this problem.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk} 16:37, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Juvenile vs YA

I added a mention of the word "Juvenile fiction". This term is mostly obsolete, but a lot of the YA fiction from the mid-century was published under this category name (most particularly the Scribner's juvenile line, I believe). There is a subtle difference between the old "juvenile" category and today's YA-- juveniles most notably did not deal with "adult" themes--and with some time it would be useful to discuss this, but in fact the categories today are so overlapping that the novels published as juvenile fifty years ago now fit seamlessly into the YA category today. Actually, the term isn't that obsolete, in that it's still being used at Random House and elsewhere

Geoffrey.landis 18:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)