Talk:Zorro
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Basement? I thought it was a cave!
By the way, it has been claiimed that the original Don Diego Vega Zorro has never been played by a Latino performer in a US made film or TV series. Is that correct?
Yeah, say that to Antonio Banderas. --Sharkb 19:25, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
- And to Guy Williams, whose real name was Armando Joseph Catalano, which sounds at least a tad Hispanic by ancestry. Wahkeenah 00:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Zorro also refers to sheer farhad of the Lower Barrarah who helped kick out the evil Montrodolleh from Barrah
I think its more accurate to say the first Zorro was never played by an Hispanic actor. If it was then I had no idea Douglas Fairbanks was Hispanic... HuronKing
Williams was Italian. Banderas did not play Vega, Anthony Hopkins did.
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[edit] Skills and Resources?
What is the point of this section? It looks like it was copied from and RPG sourcebook. Suggest it be deleted.--Lepeu1999 15:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] stub
This article says next to nothing about Zorro's life and feats. Someone who is more acquainted should add more about the character Pictureuploader 23:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Was there a real Zorro? His name was Estanislao. He was a great American hero who served God and served his people by leading a revolution, organizing an army and training his people to fight the Mexicans in California. His name is used in Stanislaus County and River in California. The Walt Disney stories, and the Wikipedia article, have entirely missed the purpose of Estanislao's life. He was not a bandit, thief or renegade. He was an inspiration. What a shame that the Wikipedia article is so wrong. Many of us were raised hearing Estanislao stories as children in California. Estanislao was a Yokuts Indian who revolted against the Mission system that was responsible for a drastically declining population of California Indians. Estanislao's life is documented in "The Stanislaus Indian Wars" by Gray and is depicted in a historical novel "Estanislao - Warrior, Man of God."
[edit] Anti-Zorro?
The page refers to The Mask of Zorro as "an anti-Zorro playing against tradition." This is not mentioned on the movie's page. Does anyone know what is meant by this? Ace of Sevens 08:55, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- I agree this does not seem correct. "A variation on the Zorro tradition." perhaps - though is it that far from 1925's Don Q ? -- Beardo 05:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Maybe it refers to the Banderas character. Regardless, it should be clarified. --D'Olivier 19:41, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I do not understand that either. 69.3.250.96 23:05, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Zorro and Don Diego nicknames
Is this section really necessary? This article should talk about the character, and how the character is treated in various media. If no one objects, I'll delete this section in about a week. --D'Olivier 19:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Zorro: Generation Z
- Zorro: Generation Z will begin in 2008. 81.48.193.127 12:08, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ownership edits
See Talk:Bran Mak Morn#Ownership edits. Nareek 12:26, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- As I understand it, the first Zorro-related copyright will expire in 2028, 70 years after character-creator Johnston McCulley's death. See this wikipage: [1] Mdiamante 23:10, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- In the United States, all works published before 1923 are in the public domain. See Copyright Term and the Public Domain in the United States. Nareek 00:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the input, Nareek. Your linked Cornell thing shows that the Wiki article is incorrect in reading "in current law, the copyright in a published work expires in all countries when all of the following conditions are satisfied [...] 1) The work was created and first published before January 1, 1923, or at least 95 years before January 1 of the current year, whichever is later; 2) The last surviving author died at least 70 years before January 1 of the current year." Provided the Cornell article is correct, the word "all" should be "any". I am making that change now. Mdiamante 03:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
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- "Any" is not quite right either; a work may be in copyright in one country and out of copyright in another. Nareek 03:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
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- True, and I left out that the "public domain" Wiki article does say "Copyrights are more complex than patents; generally, in current law, the copyright in a published work expires in all countries when any of the following conditions are satisfied (except Colombia, Cote d'ivoire, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Samoa, and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, on all these countries are fair use)[2]". I had omitted these bits earlier for clarity's sake, but there they are. Mdiamante 04:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
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