Talk:F-302
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Whatever gave you the idea that they were using energy weapons in Antarctica? Walter distinctly said that the F-302s had "expended their ordnance", and I distinctly saw a smoke trail and a movement that was NOT a straight line exhibited by the missile Mitchell shot at the Al'kesh (the flashback scene in "Avalon, Part 1"). Staff blasts have only ever been seen to go in straight lines, and have NEVER been seen to emit smoke trails, and cannot be "expended", AND it has been repeatedly stated (or at least implied) that Earth has no energy weapons. So I will put that down here, for the record. The F-302s were using their standard weaponry. LD 00:01, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Removed the speculation about the F-302 not being equal to current Earth fighters. Given that the F-302 outmatches every fighter on Earth in acceleration, manouverability, endurance, sensor technology and given that the AMRAAM's she carries are probably enhanced weapons, I'd say its clear an F-302 could destroy entire Squadrons of Earth fighters with ease. -Chris O'Farrell.
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[edit] Merger
Unless there's any objections...I'm going to merge X-302 into this article in the next few days. Both are basically stubs. -b 20:41, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
No it shouldn't the X-302 was a prototype and all later fighters were desegnated F-302 it's simalar to star trek NCC and NX prefix's the X stands for Experamental and like the NX, F is a prefix for the next fighters that came after them like the NCC prefix
-Chris Edmund
- As long as there's a separate section for the X-302, I don't really see much value in keeping them separate articles. I know they're not exactly the same thing but IMO they're close enough, and now that the F-302s are in production we're probably never going to get any additional material about X-302s to expand that article with. Bryan 06:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
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- Precisely. As it stands, neither article has much substance. Perhaps together they can unite and like, take over the world. -b 16:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- No objection. Actually I don't see why all of the human built spacecraft in Stargate need their own entries. Merge them all into a main article called Tau'ri Spacecraft. Each craft would get its own heading. The X-302 would be a subsection of the F-302 section. Lady Aleena | Talk 09:53, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Addendum: Since the X-301 was a failed prototype of the X-302 which was dubbed the F-302, these 3 articles should be merged with the X-301 and X-302 being put in a section titled Prototypes. Lady Aleena | Talk 10:01, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
- Wrong. The X-301 was not a prototype to the X-302. Two completely different ships. I can agree on merging them into one single article, but don't confuse them as the same thing. Alyeska 00:48, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
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- See my this sandbox and edit as you feel appropriate Alyeska. Lady Aleena | Talk 01:08, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
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- That looks very good. We should get a new picture for the X-302. The picture in question is a shot of the F-302. But that shouldn't be too hard to manage. Asside for the picture, its a very good start for the combined page. Alyeska 04:07, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
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Adding the info about the X-301 into the section on the F-302 is more than logical - it is necessary.
- See my sandbox for a preview of the merged article. Lady Aleena | Talk 05:17, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Is this merger approved then? If so I can have it done in minutes. Lady Aleena | Talk 17:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- I say go ahead with it. Alyeska 04:18, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- Merge complete Lady Aleena | Talk 09:43, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- Addendum: You wouldn't believe how many articles mentioned those two ships. I am trying to edit the articles now to point to this one, but it's going to take a while. Lady Aleena | Talk 11:06, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- Merge complete Lady Aleena | Talk 09:43, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hyperdirve in F-302
This sentence does not make sense:
Production models are known to still are still equiped with the hyperdrive.
Do the F-302s still have hyperdrive or not?
Lady Aleena | Talk 20:22, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
The F-302s still have a "stardrive" as Sheppard says in Allies- he plans to use it to pull of a manuever. (I can't make out the name, I assume the trick against Anubis was effective enough they adopted it as a strategy; Allies leaves a clifhanger where Sheppard disappeared after the battle with the hives, I'm betting he hyperjumped inside or close enough to one of them to ride it through hyperspace) I admit the only transcript I can find of the episode disagrees with me on what Sheppard says in flight (http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/atlantis/season2/atlantis-220.htm), but its one that someone wrote while listening to the episode, and has several errors. (I stripped it to audio only and ran frequency compensated slowed playback) I don't know if I should go ahead and change the article or wait for an official source. Oh yeah; the fighter that Carter and O'Neill used to jump through Anubis's shield was an F-302, also indicative of hyperspace generators in production models, though I don't see the justification for such technology before the incident in Homecoming DUCK 07:37, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Alpha... sites
As it has been shown that Atlantis hads an alpha site with 302s, should the alpha... sites be listed with their respective galaxy or command that they are alternate sites for? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.242.6.168 (talk • contribs).
We have only seen the Alpha site once, I don't recall their being any F-302s. Then again, there wasn't much of anything. Rockintheface (talk • contribs) 17:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Gamma site
The Gamma site had at least 3 F-302's
See this pic: http://www.stargatecaps.com/sg1/s9/917/shroomy/html/the%5Fscourge064.html
There are clearly 3 visible.
--Faris b 20:18, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
what happened to the wraithwaxers? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.44.145.191 (talk • contribs).
[edit] Uniforms?
Why were the Daedalus patches different. Generally, air force uniforms all pretty much the same as they appeared on the Odyssey but the Daedalus crew, especially Col. Caldwell have different ones. Also, has anyone noticed that on Atlantis, the team memebers never wear F-302 flight suits as they do on SG-1? What gives? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rockintheface (talk • contribs) 17:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Does anyone Object?
Does anyone object to the idea of having a section on future armanants of the 302? We know Gen. Landry was pretty eager to propagate the Asgard weapons, the 302s are a likely next upgrade. Also, how do you change what it says in the upper right corner? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rockintheface (talk • contribs) 17:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- Please do not do this. As was mentioned on the Daedalus talk page, this is called Original Research, which is a violation of Wikipedia policy. We aren't here to forecast what might happen, only to report on what has transpired. What text specifically are you referring to, in the upper right corner? -- Huntster T • @ • C 04:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- I am refering to the "general characteristics" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rockintheface (talk • contribs).
