Talk:Fanny Mendelssohn

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[edit] Fanny Mendelssohn or Fanny Hensel?

among feminist musicologists who study women composers, "fanny hensel" has become her "usual" name. she wrote most of her 452 works after she became "fanny hensel", and her husband "wilhelm hensel" was very supportive of her composing (which is more than we can say about her father or brother).

On the contrary, Fanny's father and brother were both VERY supportive throughout her life of her composing. What they did not support was her publishing her compositions, nor her performing in public. In this, they were very much people of their time and social status. It is easy to criticize her family using the standards of today. At the time, however, as their correspondence makes clear, they were acting in what they thought was her and the family's best interests. 2006-11-25.

according to google, there are: 71400 entries for "fanny hensel" -"fanny hensel mendelssohn", 13900 entries for "fanny hensel mendelssohn", 71500 entries for "fanny mendelssohn" -"fanny mendelssohn hensel", 47500 entries for "fanny mendelssohn hensel".

in the library of congress catalog, her music is filed under H for "hensel", not M for "mendelssohn". Beth 14:21, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Please don't move this page without obtaining consensus first- it's very disruptive. I'm afraid I've been unable to replicate your Google results: I get 120,000 for "fanny mendelssohn" and 85,300 for "fanny hensel". Mark^{your words} 17:12, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

i'm afraid that "consensus" is on my side. if you look her up in grove's dictionary of music, worldcat database, or the library catalog of any major university, you will find her listed under H for "hensel". Beth 17:56, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

You're clearly having trouble understanding this. If you obtain a consensus among users of Wikipedia then the page should be moved. Not before. Mark^{your words} 19:21, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I am in favour of keeping Fanny Mendelssohn as the main article heading, with redirects from Fanny Hensel and Fanny Hensel Mendelssohn. (I also take issue with the comments about Felix's and Abraham's attitudes to Fanny's composition, which were not at all as dismissive as implied by Beth). NB Wikipedia encourages writing according to standard practices - can whoever is creating the list of works please use standard capitalisation? --Smerus 21:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I also agree that Fanny Mendelssohn is best used, although with reservations. To refute User:Bethchen, Grove does not list Fanny under Hensel - she is listed under "Mendelssohn, Fanny", with a small entry at "Hensel, Fanny" stating See Mendelssohn, Fanny.

My reservations are that it is likely more scholarly accurate to title the article "Fanny Hensel", because she did write much of her music with that name, and we would also likely not think twice about moving Clara Schumann to Clara Wieck. However, since New Grove uses "Mendelssohn", and that is what most people know, I think the current article title is fine. —Sesquialtera II (talk) 01:34, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. I think the article should use the name with which she died - Hensel. Furthermore, there are many books that refer to her as 'Hensel', eg.

• The letters of Fanny Hensel to Felix Mendelssohn / collected, edited, and translated with introductory essays and notes by Marcia J. Citron.
• The life and works of Fanny Mendelssohn Hensel / by Victoria Ressmeyer Sirota
• Women creating music 1750-1850 : Marianne Martinez, Maria Theresia Von Paradis, Fanny Mendelssohn Hensel, and Clara Wieck Schumann / by Laura Gordy.
• Fanny Hensel, geb. Mendelssohn Bartholdy : das Werk / Martina Helmig (Hg.)
• Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy : a guide to reseach [sic] : with an introduction to research concerning Fanny Hensel / John Michael Cooper.

Madder 17:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)