Talk:Founding Fathers
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What Islamic state?
The Pakistan Jinnah founded was not a constitutionally defined Islamic state. It was a state based modelled on British lines with a British constitution and where there was a separation of church and state.
While Pakistan later became an islamic republic... that was after his death.
[edit] Put USA on top of examples list.
I put the USA on the top of the example list; most people looking for "founding fathers" would mean "founding fathers of the USA" anyway.
Oh yeah, I'm registered, but something on the log-in page fails on my browser (Opera). My username is leokennis...
[edit] Churchill and a few name changes.
I added Winston Churchill to the list of European founding fathers, and I renamed it from "Europe" to "European Union" to clarify. Churchill on many occasions spoke of the need for a "United States of Europe". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Walshicus (talk • contribs) 17 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Portugal has no such thing
Portugal has no such thing as "founding fathers." The example given is that of a count whose son became a king - singular, so in any case the country would have a single "founding father." In fact, Afonso I of Portugal is sometimes referred to as "father of the [Portuguese] nationhood," but to call him "fathers" is to stretch the definition a bit too much. Other monarchs have been instrumental in Portugal's independence throughout the years, but they are not known collectively by any name.
And what in heaven's name is Mário Soares doing in the founding fathers of the European Union? What did he do, except sign Portugal into the Community in 1986? And wouldn't any other prime-minister do the same thing? – Tintazul msg 11:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
