Talk:Fred A. Leuchter/Archive
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Supporters of Zundel and Leuchter claim that Fred was harrased by Jewish groups, lost his job and his family life was consequently ruined. Critics, however, state that Leuchter's testimony in the film was more damning to himself, and Zundel, then the subject of the gas chambers. Famed critic Roger Ebert stated in his review of the film: "anyone who leaves Mr. Death in agreement with Leuchter deserves to join him on the loony fringe."
You are suggesting that claiming that Leuchter lost his job as a consequence of Jewish groups (which is a fact clearly shown in the documentary) tantamounts to being a supporter of Zundel and holocaust revisionist - this insults intelligence of anyone who has seen the movie. Also, what "famed critic Roger Ebert" said has nothing to do with Mr. Leuchter - if you removed reference to Morris from Zundel post, then you shouldnt put reference to Roger Ebert here. His opinion is a very offensive judgement in itself, and putting it into this context (in which you imply that anyone who thinks that Leuchter is a victim of Jewish groups agrees with Leuchter, and therefore, by your proxy judgement, deserves to loose job) is utterly disgusting. Your post is a sheer manipulation which can only be compared to those of Zundel and holocaust revisionists.
You use the following methods:
- appeal to authority (and the one which you think needs to be introduced as "famed critic")
- association (anyone who thinks that Leuchter lost his job as a consequence of Jewish pressure is like Leuchter and Zundel)
- intimidation (anyone who thinks Leuchter is a victim deserves his fate - note that Roger uses the same method but for a far less objectionable reason - being in agreement with Lechter and Zundel - then you try to do)
to dispute the fact that Leuchter is a victim of Jewish pressure groups.
There are people who do not agree with Zundel, Leuchter and the likes, and who object to methods used by Jewish groups to punish Leuchter, and for them your post is extremely insultive.
- It seems like the only person worried about "Jewish groups" is the gentleman who posted this lengthy missive above. Text restored, and I stand by my statement that it is indeed NPOV: Ebert made that statement about the documentary on Leuchter. It is the truth. Allegations of persecution by "Jewish groups" are not NPOV. Anyone who cares to object, please feel free to do so. Modemac 01:25 Apr 19, 2003 (UTC)
- I saw the documentary a while ago. It went something like this: Leuchter is a reknowned expert on murdering people, then he goes to DDR and makes a report, then he comes home looses his job and wife and becomes a hobo. Thats the effect, but whats the cause? BL 11:37, May 2, 2004 (UTC)
