Talk:French dip sandwich
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[edit] Who originated the French Dip?
There's been a long-standing, but not ugly, dispute over who invented the French Dip (Phillipe's or Cole's), but I do recall that there has been some investigation on the matter awarding the discovery to Cole's (since I don't have the source handy I'm not putting it in the article). It would be nice if someone could track down the study.
[edit] Cole's
I am likewise inclined to think that Cole's is the real orginator but this is based on information gathered from peeople who work at Cole's so it is certaintly POV.65.125.163.221 05:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
- I wouldn't consider information from the employees of one company in a dispute as the best source for something that happened 90 to 100 years ago. Without third party sources, there is not enough evidence to support one side or the other. I think the article presents both sides in a NPOV manner. Even with significant evidence, the long standing dispute over who originated it is part of what makes the sandwich a topic to be covered by an encyclopedia, and should be included in an artice about the subject. Gentgeen 11:16, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Part of the problem was, as of 2001 when I lived in LA and loved both places, Cole's had changed management at least once. The owners at the time were a nice Persian couple who were not related to the original owners. The cafe, as you know, originated with the Pacific Electric railcar depot that it still occupies --back when LA had two rival street car lines (hence the full name is Cole's P.E. Buffet). Thus getting the straight scoop from owner/family tradition is now even more difficult. --Bobak 21:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Question of broth
This doesn't come from a point of experience with french dips per se, but it would seem nearly impossible that the quantity of beef typically served in a french dip sandwich could yield the amount of jus typically served on the side, which I should add, typically has little to no fat. Can anyone clear this up. Is Phillipe's really pouring out the drip pan? 72.37.129.139 00:34, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
