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Contents 1 Picture 2 Manga translations 3 Naming 4 English VAs 5 Characters 6 Pattern? 7 The Curse 8 Make links to zodiac symbols instead of animals? 9 Number of chapters? 10 "Last Chapter"? 11 Article size > 32KB! 12 Publishers 13 Machi and Nao 14 Yankee 15 Bias? 16 The Student Council 17 List of characters 18 Clarification on Naohito's crush 19 Manga Chapters/Volumes 20 What is the rating? 21 Main characters peice 22 Anime and manga relations 23 need sources for Natsuki Takaya and Daichi Akitaro comments regarding anime.

[edit] Picture

Someone messed up the picture. Can someone fix it?

[edit] Manga translations

I noticed that this mentions "no English" manga yet... Does fan "scanslations" count? --Jdstroy 04:44, 2003 Nov 23 (UTC)

OK, I fixed that up. --Khym Chanur 07:31, Nov 23, 2003 (UTC)

Ah, thank you! I didn't know whether I should put it up or not. --Jdstroy 04:30, 2003 Nov 25 (UTC)

It might be relevant to mention that in Europe, french translations of the first 9-10 tomes of the manga are already available? The french do have a knack for translating Japanese manga quickly, these days, as in France and in Belgium, the comic has always been quite popular.

There is an English translation now that is up to volume 12 and will soon release volume 13. Manga is not only for the French and Japanese

[edit] Naming

Since TokyoPop shows names in Western order, I will switch them around to Western order. I also will un-capitalize the last-names. --WhisperToMe 23:24, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Is akito sohma really female (wasn't a doujinshi scan, was it)?

Yes s/he is. It was an actual manga scan from chapter 100ish or something. --Kimun 04:44, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It was chapter 97, I think.

S/he doesn't really look female... (referring to the body)

[edit] English VAs

I think that they should be added on here as well since the series has been dubbed and finished.

[edit] Characters

Should each main Fruits Basket character have his/her own page? This is the case for InuYasha, and Fruits Basket is very popular as well. The character descriptions could be shortened, and details can be moved to the appropriate pages. --Sango123 23:30, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

The usual criterion is whether the split off pages would be stubs or not. If they aren't then go ahead, but you'd probably want a picture for each, IMO, to seal the deal. --Maru (talk) Contribs 00:07, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

I love FB, don't get me wrong, but it's not as popular as Inuyasha, and Inuyasha has over 150 episodes. FB stopped at like 30. So they probably sgouldn't have separate pages until the manga at least hits about Vol. 20.

I just want to know if there is anyone out there that can tell me who is in love with Tohru and who she loves back? It is mentioned that in the end of ch. 125, Yuki is holding hands with Machi Kuragi, so... that means Kyo is the one who gets Tohru? - I'm going mad without knowing that information :s, please help me! - Io-chan. (201.124.89.145 Talk)

I think the characters already have their own pages, actually...with pix on them. If you go to Fruits Basket Characters there's a brief description of them, if you go to Tohru Honda, under 'story' it tells who Tohru ends up wiv. I would put it here, but not everyone wants to spoil the end (there's a spoiler warning on Tohru's page). there's also a bunch of other details in there too... =D I couldna wait for the bks to come out so I know what happens...~Sushi 06:01, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pattern?

In Hatsuharu's profile, it says "According to the current pattern of people breaking the curse, Hatsuharu is most likely the next person to break the curse." What pattern? Is there some way that this can be explained? (I'm sorry if this is a n00b-ish question, I'm just wondering what this is based on.) -An annonymous user. January 1 2006

Yeah, that probably should be explained on the page. Here's what I think they mean: Kureno, the Rooster, was first to be freed. Next was Hiro, the Sheep. Momiji, the Rabbit, was third. Now, the Rabbit happens to be the polar opposite of the Rooster on the zodiac. Therefore, the next one to be freed must be the polar opposite of the Sheep, which is the Ox. And that's Haru. That's just my theory, though ^_^; Of course, the problem is that after Haru, we won't know who'll be next... --Jitterro 19:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. That clears up some confusion. -Same Anonymous user, March 1

should a spoiler warning be put before this post, since, those of us in the US who are following the release here and *haven't* read any English translations of the other Japanese volumes haven't gotten that far, so the last two talk posts may be spoilerish, or is venturing into the Talk page kind of "at your own risk"? P.S. Hasn't the 20th volume now been released in Japan (and thus should be updated in the info box) I think Amazon Japan says that, but I just wanted to make a note.? FleetAdmiralJ 05:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind about the 20th volume being released...I was searching for information on it and saw something that was a 20th volume as a link off of a page listing volume 19. The cover looked similar (must have been the same publisher) but I looked again today and saw it was a different series. The only thing I've found so far about volume 20 is from mangaoh.co.jp which lists it as May 19, 2006 - FleetAdmiralJ 16:48, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree wiv the spoiler warning, so I added it...I don't think the talk page should be an 'at your own risk' kinda thing, cuz a lotta pplz go to a talk page to learn a bit more about the sibject ~Sushi 06:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

opzz, I meant subject~Sushi 06:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Curse

Can someone elaborate on how exactly they've managed to break the curses? And can Kyo ever be freed, seeing as how he's technically not in the Zodiac?

We don't know how they're breaking the curse. It hasn't technically broken yet, as most of them are still possessed. People are just being gradually released from the curse. And, since Kyo is part of the curse (and a rather large part at that) it is likely that he will be released along with the others... eventually. (probably last, but that's just a guess on my part). - An anonymous user, 18 March.

Kyo is freed, according to Kyo Sohma. There is also an explanation in the article too.~Sushi 06:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Make links to zodiac symbols instead of animals?

I see that currently, in the character descriptions on this page, the link for the zodiac anime goes to the page for that animal (ie, in Yuki's summary, "Rat" goes to the article Rat). I am proposing that the links to go the article on the zodiac anime instead (ie Rat (zodiac)) instead since that seems to be a more appropriate link). The exception would be Kyo since there is no "Cat (zodiac)" article (unless someone wants to make it...). Also, it's Pig (zodiac) instead of Boar, but I think that is just a minor issue.

Done. Since cat doesn't have one I linked it to the origin story of the Chinese zodiac which provides an explanation to the cat's absense from the zodiac. --Miss Ethereal 16:46, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Number of chapters?

How many chapters have been released of the japanese manga? I'm asking not only because it's not mention on the page and should, but is not shown anywhere on the internet. ~Anonymous Contributor

According to this website who is writing reviews as the chapters come out in Hana to Yume, the last chapter was Chapter 125 (which would be the 5th chapter in the 21st volume if the 6-chapter-per-volume thing holds). According to this post, Chapter 126 will be published May 2nd. FleetAdmiralJ 19:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Last Chapter"?

The Kyo Sohma page says that "the few remaining chapters will focus on the other romantic relationships..." Does this mean that the series is about to end? Is there any evidence to the next few chapters being the last? I don't want it to end yet!!! T_T Alcnolien 01:04, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Unsubstantiated rumors state that the series will end at volume 22, or 131 chapters total. And while I have not read any confirmation of that rumor, the series certainly seems to be wrapping up.24.18.92.14 01:35, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, chapter 131 is out in Japan, and it isn't the last. Chapter 132 will be published on September 5th. So how many chapters are left? Only Takaya-sensei knows. DrGeoduck 19:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, it says tha chapter 136 is the final chapter. Yes, I don't want the series to end, yet, but it can't go on forever.............

[edit] Article size > 32KB!

Uh-oh, it looks like the Fruits Basket article has begun to exceed the suggested article size. Anyone have any suggestions on splitting it into seperate articles, or does the structure of the article not permit that? The first thought that comes to mind is splitting it into seperate articles for the anime and manga, because there are some sections in the article that only pertain to the anime but not the manga, or vice versa. However, other things such as the character descriptions section cover them both, though I suppose the information that does overlap could simply be included in both articles. --Fnar 15:10, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

ok my friend said that this site tells how the series ends, but i cant find it. o_o

[edit] Publishers

Tokyopop etc, is mentioned, but what about Chunag Yi (http://www.chuangyi.com.sg/english/)? I know they publish Fruits Basket in English, which is distributed in Australia by Madman. Perhaps Chuang Yi Should be added to the list of publishers. Also, would it be worth mentioning that Fruits Basket Chinese dub aired on the satelite channel XingKong (www.xingkong.com.cn)? Roxybudgy 06:27, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Machi and Nao

Just for the record, Machi and Naohito are still in their first year. It's been stated in the manga that the only class trip at Kaibara high school is during the second year (the year that Tohru and co. are currently in). This is why Machi and Nao didn't go to Kyoto with the usual cast- not because they were working.

[edit] Yankee

The following was moved from as a comment on the article page to here:

<!-- "Yankee"? What is that? I realize there is a short explanation below, but can we link to anything? YANKEE- "not nice person" as said in the anime. "YOU THINK YANKEES LIKE YOU CAN SCARE US?"-->

This is generally a good question... a more clear definition of what a yankee is. It is defined in Uotani's description, but perhaps this is clear. Once this explanation is read, perhaps all that is needed is to link to a gangster article or something like that. Yankee does not seem to suffice and provides a different definition from what is provided on the main article and Kogal which was listed under Yankee (disambiguation) doesn't seem to quite fit the definition either. If there aren't any objections, than I'll link it to one of the above. Alternatively, provide your own suggestions. Thanks. --Miss Ethereal 16:05, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

"Yankee" in Japanese has two meanings: one meaning "citizen of the US", the other which means "juvenile delinquent". There's a page on the Japanese Wiki for that second term, which states the term as being synonymous with "punk" or "juvenile delinquent". Hmm, hmm... *goes to add something about that on the Yankee disambiguation page* --Fnar 07:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bias?

"Mine still is one of the sweetest, most kind characters in the entire series and has never seen frowning as of yet." This sounds a bit biased to me. First off, saying that someone is 'sweet' or 'kind' is an opinion, not a fact; as such, it definitely does not belong in an encyclopedia. Secondly, I'm pretty sure that we see her frowning (or at least looking very sad) a few times in volume 8, so even the frowning thing is not correct.--Tally Solleni 14:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

If it sounds subjective, than remove it and just remark on her character. Like how Tohru is naieve, but for this particular character instead. --Miss Ethereal 14:47, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Student Council

I think that for the character sections (a nice job on the character banner though!), the other members of Yuki's student council should be given a subtitle along with "Tohru and Friends" and "The Sohmas". Although not part of the central plot, they nevertheless are an important side-group. Aside from all the humorous breaks that they provide, but they also develop Yuki's character. --Piffleprincess 04:50, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea to me. Go ahead!--Tally Solleni 17:21, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of characters

The way that the characters have been displayed has changed quite a bit over the last little while. Originally, there was a brief description of the characters, then that was taken out to be replaced with the character template (which contained all the characters), and now the characters are listed in a list style. I'd rather than we go back to having the template in there, than what is currently being used. There doesn't seem to be any logical order to the list on how the characters are being displayed. The template, when it replaced all the brief character descriptions, seemed to be out of place a little, but I still think that it's better than what we have now. If anyone has any qualms with this, let me know otherwise I'll be taking out the list and putting the template back in. (Actually, I liked the character descriptions better... but I'm sure there was a valid reason to change it... though not explained. If I had my druthers, I would go back to the brief character descriptions, but I'll settle for the template for now.) --Miss Ethereal 20:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I went ahead and did this, as I received no objections. --Miss Ethereal 14:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Hum, the previous character list looked less-than-decent, yes, but dropping a template into the middle of the article like that looks bad, too. :S There are better alternatives. We could use InuYasha as an example; they have a seperate article called InuYasha characters and link to it under the Characters subheading. Not a bad idea, in my opinion, I propose we do the same thing for this article. :9 I'm gonna go ahead with this in a few days unless I recieve any objections. --Fnar^(talk) 19:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't be adverse to that. As I stated earlier, I liked it better when there were those brief character descriptions so creating a separate page may be the best alternative. For now though, the awkward template may work better (I don't understand why the table was ordered that way, whereas the template has some kind of order). --Miss Ethereal 20:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Done. :9 For the most part, the new article is recycled information from the Fruits Basket revision history. In otherwords, there have been new volumes released, and certain character descriptions need to be updated.--Fnar^(talk) 13:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Excellent! I'm sure it'll be copy-edited and revised multiple times over!  :P --Miss Ethereal 14:07, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clarification on Naohito's crush

It is claimed in the article that Naohito's crush is the president of the Yuki Fan Club. Could anyone please confirm this? Also, is it referring to Motoko (the current president) or Minami (the future president)?--Tally Solleni 21:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I can confirm that it was shown in the manga (a chapter not yet published in the U.S. I'll have to check back to see specifically which chapter it was). It was Motoko, who, in that chapter, was on the verge of graduating.--DrGeoduck 23:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Manga Chapters/Volumes

In the article it says that the anime ends at approximately the end of volume 6 but it doesn't say what chapter that is. I have no idea, someone please find out? Maybe there could be a section on which chapter is in which volume? JT 09:11, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

the final episode is of chapter 33 in volume 6, but the chap 36 (yuki visits ayame's shop) is also an episode. and in each volume there are six chapters (so it goes vol.1-chpt1-6 vol.2-chpt.7-12, ect.) Since the anime's final episode is a little diffrent from the manga i guess you could say mid-final eppy = chpt.33. --68.81.88.109 05:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is the rating?

Is FB a clean anime? Can it be recommended for young children? --JDitto 22:43, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmm...Actually, it's based more towards 13 and up. It can contain bad words and mild sexual jokes, but it's not VERY dirty or violent. I think it can be recommended towards kids 10 and up. I think. Oh and it has some mild violence, but no blood. The great things about it is that it's a great romance/comedy, with lots of beautiful drama and hilarious comedic parts. Hope this helped. ¡Adios! Kyo cat 00:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Mild sexual jokes? You mean stuff in the manga is passed on to the cartoon as well? --JDitto 06:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Uhh....I think? Kyo cat 22:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, not everything. Fruits Basket is still being published in Japan....oh you mean the sexual jokes!! Well, yes they do, but very rarely. Like I said, they are not dirty or nasty, just moderate and not meant to offend anyone. Although watch out with episode 13. I've read that chapter in the manga, and I'm pretty sure the violence, language and sexual nature (not what you think!)is still there. Kyo cat 23:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow, it's been a while since I've been here. Seeing what I said back then, I think I mixed up "Fruits Basket" with another graphic novel I was currently interested in. Thank you so much for your assistance Kyo, because I wasn't quite sure whether this story was okay enough to share with my sibling, seeing the last time I gave her the okay I accidentally led her to be obsessed with demons and murder. --JDitto 04:01, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

You're very much welcome. Naruto isn't that bad....for a teenager ;-). I hope you get to read Fruits Basket (or watch it)! --Tohru Honda13^{Sign here!} 20:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Main characters peice

Do we really have to have that section there? I mean, you can just click on their names in the character template at the bottom of the page, or search for fruits basket characters. Kyo cat^(Talk) 04:18, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anime and manga relations

One section of the article states that the anime follows the manga up to Volume Eight. Another part says that the anime follows the manga up to Volume Six. Never having read the manga, I wouldn't know which is right, so can anyone confirm which one of these statements is correct? Raven23 14:47, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

The last episode where Kyo transforms into a monster is indeed up to volume six, but there are characters that are introduced farther than volume six. Kisa and Hiro Sohma are introduced in volume 7, while Ritsu Sohma was introduced in volume eight. Since Ritsu is the last to be revealed, it is safe to say that the anime is up to volume eight of the manga. The anime just switched around character introductions so that Kyo's transformation would be the last episode. --Tohru Honda^{Sign here!} 21:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] need sources for Natsuki Takaya and Daichi Akitaro comments regarding anime.

At the beginning of 2006, however, Natsuki Takaya and Daichi Akitaro announced in two separate interviews that there will not be any more work on the anime for a number of reasons.

There need to be sources for this. There has been nothing posted to any of the major internet anime sites regarding such comments. The most recent interview with Natsuki Takaya i could find was the one she did for Time Magazine [1] And there was no mention of the anime there. DyloniusFunk 17:02, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll try to look into that, thanks for the tip. ♥Tohru Honda13♥ 22:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Try checking out Japanese articles. I know for sure it was never released in any English magazines but have no idea what magazines in Japan they've done interviews for. The new Banquet book has a full interview with Takaya about the series, so we might be able to use that as a source if it mentions the anime.SephNoir 11:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)