User talk:Gadfium/archive23

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Contents 1 Support 2 Portal 3 Speedy Deletion 4 Big thoughts contribution 5 Re Template:New Zealand topics 6 Fair use and prominent New Zealanders 7 History of New Zealand 8 copyright issues 9 Thanks 10 New NZ articles archive 11 List of single-camera sitcoms 12 Valid material from wiki 13 Pic 14 User:Mostlyharmless at it again 15 Department of Political Studies (Auckland, New Zealand) restore proposal 16 NZBORA 17 Thanks 18 Tauranga Boys' College 19 Mea culpa 20 User page: Hayden5650

[edit] Support

Thanks for the trouble you go to adding catagories to articles I write. I'm still finding my way around wikipedia, and do not find these tasks easy. I just have not managed to see a picture in my mind of how wikipeidia works. if I may, I will continue to hummbly place before you my difficulties in order to make more sense of this difficult task. Fred114 05:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Feel free to ask for help whenever you need it.-gadfium 07:02, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Portal

Can you keep an eye on the Portal for a week, I'm going on a Spirit of Adventure voyage. (articles are queued for this Monday) cheers, Brian | (Talk) 07:41, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Sure, no problem.-gadfium 07:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy Deletion

Hi, I added a warning on the talk page of 4DPuzzle. [1]. I can't understand the result. The user who deleted it said, and the only contributor was Fred114. The article page was also deleted see [2]. I intended to delete the article page. Why did this not happen? Should I add the message to the article page? Fred114 08:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

The message saying "and the only contributor was..." is automatically generated for any page deleted which only has a single contributor. You were the only contributor to that talk page. It is more normal to put speedy delete messages on article pages, but you did nothing wrong. Indeed, you helped Wikipedia by drawing attention to a page that didn't meet our standards.

I see that your signature above doesn't link to your user page. Do you know about using ~~~~ to sign on talk pages? It's much easier than doing it by hand.-gadfium 17:42, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I know why the signature is not linking. I took out the label without unchecking the Raw Signature box. Also I did another deletion, but neither time it was recorded on my contributions page. The other deletion was here. There was no reference to my action that I can find. I was trying out RC Patrol, which takes a bit of effort to be aware not offend. The biggest obstacle was acting fast enough to revert vandalism. Either the dial-up is too slow, or others can action this faster. Introduced a few people also. Is there a bot for doing this repetative process? Fred114 23:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there are a number of tools available to assist in vandal fighting and RC patrol. See Category:Wikipedia counter-vandalism tools. Which one suits you depends on what operating system and browser you use, and some are restricted to users with a minimum number of edits. I don't use any of these, since I'm not primarily a vandal fighter, and I have access to admin rollback. However, I've heard good things about VandalProof, although it is Windows-only.

Deleted pages don't show up in your edit history.-gadfium 04:45, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Big thoughts contribution

If I wanted to make a broader comment on taking part on wikipedia, that may generate discussion, where would be the best place? Village Pump? Fred114 23:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, one of the village pump pages would probably be good.-gadfium 04:46, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re Template:New Zealand topics

Hi Gadfium,

I've asked for some discussion on this new template at Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board.

Thanks for informing me; I've just left some context there for the sake of discussion. Yours, David Kernow (talk) 05:20, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use and prominent New Zealanders

I have recently change some photo's of New Zealand political figures which you have removed siting copyright. I believe that these photo's are able to be used for "fair use" reasons. What are your thoughts on this? --Jughead78 05:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jughead78 (talk • contribs).

I would like to be able to use such photos under a "fair use" rationale, and many articles on New Zealand politicians once had such photos taken from parliamentary websites on that basis. However, rules have tightened up at Wikipedia, and fair use is not acceptable if there is a chance that someone could take a free photo. As I understand it, the argument is that if we have a professional but non-free photo, then few people would bother going along to a "meet the local MP / candidates" meeting and taking photos which can be genuinely free.-gadfium 04:54, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

And if we are given permission to use the photo on this site? How does that effect it's use?

Also I note other official photo's from other international leaders that have not been removed, this appears to be a double standard can you explain this.

Finally I don't know how going to your local candidate meeting has anything to do with have their photo on wikipedia? --Jughead78 05:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

We need the photo to be licensed under a free licence - GFDL or Creative Commons. Permission for use on Wikipedia only is not sufficient, because we want others to be able to reuse our content.

Other countries have different copyright laws. In particular, any works of the US government are public domain. It is not generally an acceptable argument to say that other articles break the rules. You are welcome to point to other non-free images used, but you should take it up with people who are more active on image issues than I am. For example, User:Eagle 101 has much more experience with image licensing issues than I have.

The value of going to meetings is that you get a chance to photograph the candidates. Your photo may not be up to professional standard, but sometimes it will turn out really well, and in any case it is likely to be better than nothing.-gadfium 05:08, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History of New Zealand

Hi Gadfium, thanks for correcting my edit and finding a source for that... I had imagined some pimply-faced schoolboy inserting that and pointing it out on the screen with laughter to his chums. ;) Happy editing. Robotman¹⁹⁷⁴ 02:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] copyright issues

I probably did not do this correctly, but there are some copyrighted images which are falsely indentified as being PD in the States. Here's an example

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pents13.jpg One can plainly see the the copyright notice "(c) 1971 US Games" on the lower right corner.Smiloid 22:11, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar (my first one). I appreciate the acknowledgment of my effort to improve, and consider it more meaningful coming from someone who doesn't always agree with me. <<-armon->> 00:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks mate yes sorry about moving the page its just all the other lists are basically feature films and New Zealand seemed the odd one out in naming and I wanted it to become part of the series. When I have time I'll give you a hand in filling in the tables -they are good because they also show the direcotrs actors genre release dates and notes of all the films which are list of titles can't do .-cheers. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New NZ articles archive

Am wondering if it is about time to archive the new articles. perhaps have the current page from Jan 2007 and the archive being up to end of 2006? As I don't know how to create the archive, decided to ask you if you thought this is a good idea and whether you could do it. Thanks Linnah 07:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Although I was the last editor to archive the list, previously Grutness took care of it. The method he used seems to be that every three months, he archived everything over three months old. At the end of March, any remaining entries from 2006 will be archived. It would be possible to archive more regularly, but there is certainly value in keeping the last few months in the current list, as it is often some time after an article is created that it is added to the list, and few if any editors are likely to watch the archives closely.-gadfium 07:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of single-camera sitcoms

I see you created the article List of single-camera sitcoms with an entry for Rude Awakenings. This is the title of a new comedy/drama series which has just started in New Zealand, and unless you had some inside knowledge that it was in production, I assume you meant a different program of the same name, or perhaps Rude Awakening (TV series). Can you fix or disambiguate it, since I'm not sure what the correct action is. Thanks.-gadfium 00:33, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I'm not sure where I adapted the list from originally and where I picked up Rude Awakening(s). I think the original reference must have been to the US program, airing on Showtime (a pay cable channel); but I've never seen it and don't know for sure. In any event, I changed it over to Rude Awakening (TV series). If the NZ program is also single-camera, please feel free to add it. Regards --Jeremy Butler 01:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Valid material from wiki

I raised the possiblity of organising students from a university to edit material on a topic of their choice within their domain of expertise. The reply from lecturers was that the do not want material taken from wikipedia to be used by students, and therefore they should not take part. Is there a past discussion on this that shows the pros and cons of teriary insitutions encouraging students to take part? Fred114 01:14, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:School and university projects may be what you want. If it isn't, try asking at the Help desk.-gadfium 01:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pic

Choice on getting the photo under GDFL :) Would you be able to forward me a copy of the email that was send to the PM's office asking for the licensing? Cheers Brian | (Talk) 04:23, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Mostlyharmless at it again

See here: User talk:Tazmaniacs#Algerian_Civil_War —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Armon (talk • contribs).

I'm not a mediator. You have three options: ignore Mostlyharmless, request mediation, or issue a Request for Comment. You'll need another editor who was involved and who will back you up for the latter.-gadfium 00:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. <<-armon->> 00:54, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Department of Political Studies (Auckland, New Zealand) restore proposal

Please note that I have requested that this page be restored following the recent deletion. I note that you have previously commented in favour of retaining the page Talk:University_of_Auckland#Proposed_merger. Please see the restore request (under 18 February 2007) on Wikipedia:Deletion_review. Your support would be appreciated. Nicknz 09:36, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NZBORA

Thanks for the heads up on this. I've now corrected the article in question. Cheers! --Lholden 21:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

[edit] Tauranga Boys' College

good day,

regarding the editing and new additions to the Tauranga Boys' College page:

i added notable alumini earlier, with a particular emphasis on 'Tu Pounamu IV'. i should actually rephrase my earlier comment from 'national recogniton' to a more specific and syncratic term of recognition, as it was mainly widly known only by maori of Tuhoe and Ngati Awa decent, as it concerned one of the last existing members of their former warlord-style aristocracy. so i think i should re-word it to make it more accurate. it might be a good idea if somone considered investigating an article about the former Ngati Awa Chieftainship and Maori conservatism. also about idiosyncracies within Maori Socioty and the way they communicate amoung individual conservative sociol castes. - Archibald Barclay, PHD, history and political science. Johannesemmanuelle 14:29, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Please see our policy on Attribution, which says, in a nutshell, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is whether material is attributable to a reliable published source, not whether it is true." As a PhD student, you must realise the importance of quoting reliable sources.-gadfium 18:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC) Reply also copied to Johannesemmanuelle's talk page)

[edit] Mea culpa

Sorry about that. I was actually intending to revert the first edit, but somehow they slipped in a second one. --Lholden 01:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User page: Hayden5650

Sorry Gadfium, I'm at work and began to create my page by copying the user boxes from another user page, and was going to correct the info, however got called away from my desk. Will not happen again

Okay, no problem.-gadfium 03:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)