Talk:Gary Bettman

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[edit] Gary Bettman

This article often reads like opinion and hearsay and needs to cite sources. A fan-led protest against the current state of the NHL is supposed to take place at NHL games on January 20, and I don't doubt that this page will be vandalized around that time.

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I will be glad to help out on this article. --BillyRamirez 01:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Added to User:Dvandersluis/Desk BillyRamirez 01:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

1 Gary Bettman
2 Bon Cop, Bad Cop
3 criticism section
4 Pictures

I removed the 2006 and onward section because it reads like hearsay and is missing reliable sources. --BillyRamirez 01:08, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I removed the HE SUCKS at the top of the page because even though I agree, its not really appropriate to post here. Jeffy b 06:15, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bon Cop, Bad Cop

Was pariodied in the movie Bon Cop, Bad Cop by a character named Harry Buttman who served in the same position and who was going to sell the Montréal team to the US. Unsure of where or how to add this if even necessary. Lsjzl 13:14, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] criticism section

I think the criticism section should be greatly limited or even eliminated because it is very anti-bettman (see WP:NPOV). For example it referenced several teams declaring bankruptcy, if you're going to mention that you ought to mention that most have come out of bankrupcty (see Buffalo Sabres, now the number one team in league who also sold out all seats for the year).Eleigh33 20:54, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

- I tend to agree. I realize that this article had a neutrality tag, but if that entire piece on Bettman's supposed faults and injustices upon the game is allowed to stay, I'm going to write an equally lengthy piece on the meritable things that he's brought to hockey. At any rate, the link to the FireBettman site isn't germaine to any objective article, in my opinon. Predshockey17 08:40, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

-I did some editing on the section, added a couple sources. I did remove these two chunks that were total bias:

Despite the fact that the instigator rule was added the offseason before Gary Bettman took over as commissioner, fighting advocates such as CBC commentator and former Boston Bruins coach Don Cherry argue that "Bettman's instigator rule" has unnecessarily reduced fighting in the game, as well as restricted the ability of players to protect their teammates. Critics of fighting in hockey argue that fights happen for no reason, but because of the instigator rule, fights are not allowed to happen for a reason because the instigating player will be assessed an additional penalty. ---just made no sense and didnt really relate to Bettman himself

He has also expanded to many non-hockey markets where there is not enough interest in hockey to sustain an NHL team. ---first he doesnt expand the league votes, and second if there wasnt interest the would have folded (plus carolina won the cup last year)

So these are out, but they're here if someone really wants to rework them, source them and put them back in.eLeigh33 05:35, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I going to delete the section, and the we can rework or just eliminate it. If only there was a way to source radio shows, that section would have too much reference. The Evil Clown _{Please review me!} 14:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)