Talk:George Papandreou (senior)
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Something that wasn't answered earlier...
Is "Andreas" his middle name? --Jiang
I've never seen him referred to as such, but the Greek family naming pattern suggests that it was, since his son was Andreas George and his grandson is George Andreas. It is possible however that the middle name is a recent innovation in Greek names and that he didn't have one. I'm not sure where I can check this but I will try. Adam
- I think of people from that generation (and earlier), it was typically uncommon to have a formal middle name (e.g. on the birth certificate), but not uncommon to use the father's name as a sort of descriptive pseudo-middle-name, especially if the father was famous. This may have varied by region though, so I'm not giving it as a definitive answer. --Delirium 08:19, Nov 16, 2003 (UTC)
I think indeed his father was Andreas. In fact being a priest he was called Papa Andreas (father Andreas) thus Papandreou means "son of father Andreas". In that time they were not used to have a middle name. —Geraki 2005-05-27 T 11:29 Z Andreas was not his middle name, middle names do not exist in Greek naming tradition. Greeks usually have one first name, sometimes two. The latter is still the exception, although nowadays one sees it more often than what used to be the case. The use of a the father's first name after one's own first name is common in Greece, mostly for disambiguation purposes, where in other countries middle names (not in everyday use) or dates of birth, would be used. The father's first name is used in the genitive so Andreas Papandreou was Andreas Georgiou Papandreou, Georgiou being the genitive of Georgios. This is close to the use of the father's name with -ov at the end in Russia or other Slavic countries. However, it should be stressed that the "father's name" does NOT form part of a person's given name, it is a distinct piece of information. Andreas Papandreou was called just that, not Andreas Georgiou Papandreou. Further, Papandreou means "of Priest Andreas", another case of the genitive. It is still common in Greece to call priests by their first name preceded by Papa (meaning "priest") the equivalent of English e.g. Father Andrew. In old times it was common for the families of priests to abandon their previous surname and use instead "of Papa so-and-so" as surname. I think this was the case with Papandreou, too since I remember reading somewher that their previous surname was "Stavropoulos"
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