User talk:Ghmyrtle

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Contents 1 Welcome! 2 Image tagging for Image:Nalgo banner.jpg 3 The American Metaphysical Circus 4 Okay...in need of help now on Joe Byrd 5 Paul Welbourne, Audio Reproduction Consultant??? 6 AMC Lyrwiki 7 The Rock Machine Turns You On 8 Minor edits 9 Lizzy 10 The Use of Ashes 11 Ernie Fields 12 Alela Diane 13 Deletion of Alela Diane 14 Alela Diane - revised article 14.1 Discography 14.2 External links 15 Editors that don't provide an edit summary tend to look like vandals 16 Alela Diane

[edit] Welcome!

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[edit] Image tagging for Image:Nalgo banner.jpg

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[edit] The American Metaphysical Circus

Have did some more research and made some copy mods - US vs. UK, etc. If you find that record, see if you can verify/complete the musicians list? Thanks! Tvccs 13:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Okay...in need of help now on Joe Byrd

I just spoke with Joseph Byrd for about an hour after getting a lengthy e-mail from him...and I mentioned a couple of the things you said. If there's any way you can lay your hands on this UK sampler you spoke of, scan the cover front/back, and identify what USA track was on it...we'd both like to know - it was news to him as well, and he'd love to see it. If you really wanna have "fun", I have permission from him to create a Lyrwiki for TAMC, as there is already one for USA - I don't have the record where I can get my hands on it. Any thoughts? I am going to see if I can find this sampler as well. Thanks for any and all assistance, and for your input already - very helpful. Tvccs 22:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually...I see you already identified the single and sampler track...thanks...looking for the art now. Tvccs 22:15, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Paul Welbourne, Audio Reproduction Consultant???

Can you please provide more information on this one???...thanks. 65.217.38.131 00:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AMC Lyrwiki

Would you be willing to do an AMC Lyrwiki? USA has one linked at the bottom of the album page that should serve as a guideline and Byrd has authorized it to me - I'm willing to do a redirect from Joe to Joseph, but I haven't done one prior and don't know how...yet. The lyrics are on the back cover. Tvccs 12:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Here's the link... http://lyriki.com/index.php?title=United_States_of_America:United_States_of_America_%281968%29 Tvccs 13:53, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Rock Machine Turns You On

I found your page on these samplers...and then found the art for the second album and added it to the page - this was also reissued on CD in 1996 - modify layout as you wish - I will pass the info along to Joseph Byrd. Thanks again Tvccs 13:21, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor edits

I think you should be careful what you flag as minor. I am sure that adding a citation does not count as minor.

see Help:Minor edit.

Thanks for the reference on the 1844 sinking. Do you have anything for the 1855 sinking ?

-- Beardo 21:57, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lizzy

Thank you for adding information on Lizzy Mercier Descloux!

[edit] The Use of Ashes

You changed "jewellery" (UK spelling) to "jewelry" (US spelling). Why ? Most of the world does not live in the US, including me, the UK-based author of the page. Please only make changes which are necessary. Ghmyrtle 11:19, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

My apologies, it was a genuine mistake. I'm well aware of the differences between British and American English; indeed as someone living in England, I use the former myself. I'm also aware of Wikipedia's policy of not changing between American and British spellings (unless it's to restore consistency within an article). In this case, changing from jewellery to jewelry accidentally got onto my bot's spelling list, and I've removed it now. Thanks for pointing out the mistake. CmdrObot 21:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ernie Fields

Hi, I noticed that you created the article about Ernie Fields, and it's great. My aunt is his daughter, and she gave me his birth date for my genealogy records (you can't see the dates on that page because they are private), so I changed the birth date on his page to the date she gave me, which is also found in the Social Security Death Index and elsewhere on the web, so I believe it is the correct one. --Michael White^T·C 15:17, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alela Diane

A tag has been placed on Alela Diane, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (below the existing db tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Daniel J. Leivick 23:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I should have taken a look before, nominating for a speedy, but it looked like any one of the dozens of usual vanity pages that get created every couple of minutes. I will remove the nomination as it can clearly be sourced. --Daniel J. Leivick 23:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. I think it fails WP:BAND. My interpretation: I think if an article makes the assertion that it's notable in the way WP:BAND permits, it should be saved from the speedy and sent to WP:AFD if there's any further question of notability or whether the asserted notability is genuine. However, this particular article's assertion of notability doesn't jibe with WP:BAND since it only refers to one self-release, and one independent label release. If any other editors disagree with this interpretation, let me know, and I'd be happy to send it on to AFD instead. --adavidw 01:23, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Alela Diane

Please note that I didn't actually delete the Alela Diane article. The only thing I did was to tag it as a potential speedy delete candidate. It's an administrator's job to come along and review it and determine whether it meets the Criteria for Speedy Deletion. In this case User:NawlinWiki reviewed it and deleted it, citing criteria A7, which says "An article about a real person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content that does not assert the importance or significance of its subject." This criteria doesn't say that the artist isn't notable, it just says that there's nothing in the article that says why or how the subject is notable.

I see now that the subject is indeed probably notable enough to satisfy the Wikipedia guidelines. However, the article didn't say anything about why she was notable, nor did it provide any sort of references to establish notability, and that's evidently why NawlinWiki chose to delete it. It appears that the deletion review will probably succeed, at which point you should have no problem finding reputable sources to include in the article to establish notability. Even if the deletion review doesn't succeed, you can always rewrite the article to include this information, and the upload it again. Nobody seeing a properly sourced article like that would make any attempt to delete it. --adavidw 20:16, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I accept that the original article didn't say enough about notability and I'd be happy to rewrite it to do that. Other than going through User:NawlinWiki's talk page, is there any other action I need to take at this point ? Advice appreciated. Ghmyrtle 22:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

There's nothing more to do at this point. Just keep an eye on the deletion review. Either it will bring the page back and you can put more information in, or it'll stick and you'll be able to upload a new page (as long as it has the sources and references everyone's looking for). --adavidw 22:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alela Diane - revised article

Alela Diane Menig (b 1983, Nevada City, California) is an American singer and songwriter, who is associated with the psych folk and New Weird America musical genres.

She grew up singing with her musician parents and performing in the school choir. She taught herself guitar, and began writing songs which blend tense, trance-like arpeggios with warm vocals and meditative lyrics about family and nature. Her first recordings were self-released in 2003 as “Forest Parade”. Her first public appearances were at the invitation of fellow Nevada City native Joanna Newsom.

The songs for her next album, “The Pirate’s Gospel”, were written on a trip to Europe. They were recorded in her father’s studio and were initially again self-released in 2004, in paper and lace sleeves with hand lettering. The album was issued in revised form by Holocene Music [1]in October 2006, and received widespread critical acclaim [2] [3] [4] [5] [6].

Five new songs were issued on a limited-edition 10” vinyl pressing, “Songs Whistled Through White Teeth”, released in the UK in October 2006.

Alela Diane has toured in the USA both solo and with Tom Brosseau and Lisa Germano, and has also opened for the Decemberists, Akron/Family and Vashti Bunyan. She will be performing in the UK in April 2007. According to a recent interview [7] she intends releasing her second album later this year. She now lives in Portland, Oregon.

[edit] Discography

• Forest Parade, self-released, 2003
• The Pirate's Gospel, self-released, 2004
• The Pirate's Gospel, Holocene Music, 2006 (revised track listing)
• Songs Whistled Through White Teeth, Names Records (UK), 2006 (10” vinyl)

[edit] External links

• Official website
• MySpace page
• Performance of The Rifle
• Holocene Music

[edit] Editors that don't provide an edit summary tend to look like vandals

I have noticed you commonly don't enter an edit summary as you didn't when you edited User talk:NawlinWiki (see this edit). This causes me problems. When I patrol for vandalism, I use the summary to make a preliminary decision on whether or not the post is a vandal edit or not. If the summary is present (or at least a section header, the part inside the /* */), I commonly decide the edit is legit and move on.

However, if no edit summary is available, I typically resort to loading the diff for the edit. This takes time. For that reason, if your edits are all valid, I ask that you provide edit summaries. For more on how to enter an edit summary, please read Help:Edit summary.

Incidentally, it is not just me that appreciate having edit summaries. When you omit your summary, you may be telling various bots that you are vandalizing pages. For this reason, please consider providing that summary. It is very important. You can enter that summary via the edit summary box on edit pages (as shown below).

Will (Talk - contribs) 01:34, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Advice appreciated - thanks. Ghmyrtle 08:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alela Diane

The article is recreated and listed at AfD. You should paste your version above into the article. ~ trialsanderrors 07:35, 1 February 2007 (UTC)