Talk:Gill (clan)

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Mostly gills are settled in malwa and majha(punjab). They are very takitive and egoistic people. They are nice to talk and everything but they go off topic really fast.but they are really cccooooollll ppl. so yaaaaa go gills.

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Associating people all over the world as originating from the Gill clan just because they share an old Indo-European word for a surname is nonsense.Why not say all fish originate from the Gill clan,because they have gills. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.203.66.59 (talk • contribs) .

I've just removed possibly the most ridiculous claims I've ever read on Wikipedia: one saying that people named "Gill" in Britain and Scandinavia were probably decended from the same Indo-European tribe as the Indian Gills, and another giving Middle English and Old Norse "variants" for Gill. I mean, wow. --Saforrest 15:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I suggest you use Yhrd to study the Y dna distribution in Euro-Asia.

Contents 1 Gill bullar lineage 2 The Vikings and Baron Dupuytren’s disease 3 Bactrian letters 4 Erm... no they don't. 5 gill and gypsies

[edit] Gill bullar lineage

The story goes that a Rajput King(a Gill?) having 3 wives could not produce a son.So he took as wife a woman of the Bhullar clan.The new wife produced a son;the other wives being jealous kidnapped the boy and left him to die in a marsh.The king found the boy in the Marsh and hence called him shergill,meaning Lion of the Marsh or Moist lands.Of course this could be the origin of shergill clan not Gill.

[edit] The Vikings and Baron Dupuytren’s disease

Are you a Gill and have the following genetic disease,I do.It may be associated with R1a1 http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1305903&blobtype=pdf

[edit] Bactrian letters

http://www.gengo.l.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~hkum/bactrian.html

from the above link

'One of the less well-preserved letters is particularly interesting because it mentions a Kushan-shah [Slide 12 12KB]. This letter can hardly be later than the latter half of the fourth century, when the rule of the Kushan-shahs came to an end. The Kushan-shah here seems to be named as Warahran, though the reading of the name is not quite clear [Slide 13 10KB]. Since Warahran (or Bahram) was the name of the last Kushan-shah --- or the last two Kushan-shahs --- known from the coins, the letter probably belongs to the very end of the Kushano-Sasanian period. '

Could the name Warahran be connected to A Jat king, Vinaypal, who was a descendant of Waryah.

'I suspect that the title khar is an Iranian --- but not necessarily Bactrian --- dialect form derived from Old Iranian *xshathriya- "ruler" [Slide 23 11KB]. The true Bactrian form may be sher, which is mentioned by Muslim writers as the title of the rulers of Bamiyan, Gharchistan, and other places in the area around ancient Bactria'

Could above be related to sher as in Shergill

[edit] Erm... no they don't.

"The Scots and Irish for instance, also claim lineage from the same original Scythians that simultaneously settled in Northern India."

There is a legend about one tribe arriving in Pict land from Scythia. However, this is one tribe in the Pits and dates to pre Roman times. Can you reference the dates and times for the word "simultaneously". Also the Picts are not the Scots and Irish. It is well known that the Scots and Irish can be traced to Spain - both in ledgend and in modern genetics.

Many other claims in this article are without referance. Rincewind42 16:32, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Although the Macdonald clan is partly decended from somerled whose marker is R1a1,a marker which is spread throughout Euroasia.Also J2 is also present in Scotish Borders and be Sarmatian

[edit] gill and gypsies

"but especially amongst gypsies"

I've googled gills gypsy etc and have found no evidence that the gill name is more common in this groups or any other group.So if no one comes up with some proof I'll remove this entry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.48.46.141 (talk) 17:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC).