Talk:Gone with the Wind (film)
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[edit] Casting Vivien Leigh
William Pratt wrote in his book Scarlett Fever,
- It wouldn't be, actually, until after [producer David O. Selznick's] death twenty-seven years later that his personal effects would uncover a masterful public deception. These effects yielded a privately owned print of A Yank at Oxford, rental receipts for all of Miss Leigh's British films and various photographs of her — all date-stamped between February and August of 1938. His confidential correspondence of that time included a thank-you to M-G-M for the print of Miss Leigh's film and discussions with [his brother, agent] Myron Selznick asking that his client, Laurence Olivier, postpone divorce proceedings until after Gone with the Wind began. . . .
- But his most guarded correspondence later showed that from February [1938] on Vivien Leigh had the inside track to play Scarlett O'Hara. Mr. Selznick began negotiations with [producer] Alexander Korda to secure her services for a commitment later that year and found the overseas movie man was not immediately receptive to the idea. However, Vivien was informed of the Selznick interest, sworn to secrecy and told that a screen test was not presently necessary since David Selznick could view her previous films instead.
Walloon 00:22, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Inconsistency
How come this article says that Scarlett was met with mixed reviews while the Scarlett article says it was universally panned? Ken Arromdee 08:24, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Casting Call
OK, now that we've established every woman in Hollywood tested for it (though Selznik had already chosen Viv Leigh), can we mention the role of Rhett? Beyond "I don't give a damn", I mean. It's not like Gable was the only choice. For instance (hard as it may be to believe), Margaret Mitchell's first choice was Groucho Marx... Trekphiler 14:39, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- Apparently Margaret Mitchell's joke went right over your head. — Walloon 21:28, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
And into the bargain, might one perhaps request some variety of plot summary? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.97.17.122 (talk • contribs) 03:57, 16 February 2006 (UTC.
[edit] academy awards
This articles claims that this movie won 8 academy awards. The 8 plus academy award reciever page article claims that the film won 9 academy awards. The cover of the dvd claims the film won 10 academy awards. I assume the dvd is right.
- I think it's because it won 10 but two of them were 'special' one-off awards for which no other film was even nominated. See the list of Oscars at the bottom of the article. The Singing Badger 22:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
um, should we have a plot summery? Evil Deep Blue 02:27, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
- Why the "um"? — Walloon 06:22, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removed quote from beginning
There was a land of Cavaliers and Cotton Fields called the Old South... Here in this pretty world Gallantry took its last bow.. Here was the last ever to be seen of Knights and their Ladies Fair, of Master and of Slave... Look for it only in books, for it is no more than a dream remembered. A Civilization gone with the wind...
The above quote was at the beginning of the article, placed there by an anonymous editor. I have removed it as it didn't belong at the top of the article. Should anyone desire to see the quote back in I recommend making a quotes section. — GT 11:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] McDaniel and Gable
I've read numerous books on the making of this movie, and have never seen the claim that Clark Gable was threatening to boycott the Atlanta premiere because Hattie McDaniel was not invited. The accounts I have seen say that he did not like to attend premieres in general, and he became even more dubious about attending when he heard that his friend director Victor Fleming was also boycotting the premiere due to differences Fleming was having with producer Selznick. Can anyone offer a citation for the Gable-McDaniel allegation? — Walloon 08:53, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] V0.5 nomination
This article is rated by the Films project as B-class. While that alone doesn't make it ineligble, the lack of reference is legit and as V0.5 articles should be in the top 1-2%, the article fails on quality grounds, mainly due to there only being 1 reference. I suggest a peer review and then Good Article run, as the topic is clearly important enough for V0.5. Rlevse 16:53, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Argument against widescreen
I don't know how popular this is, but I read an article once where this film was the argument against widscreen formats (nothing's cut off in full-frame). If it has any leeway at all, I think it should be included in the article--Attitude2000 15:59, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Eh? What do you mean? The film was shot in a full-frame format, due to widescreen not being invented yet. For one of the many re-releases, the film was presented in wide-screen, with the top an bottom of the frame cut off, which displeased many. Perhaps that's what your'e thinkign of ....(Complain)(Let us to it pell-mell) 01:25, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
I guess it doesn't have to be added to the article, but I just wanted to mention that.--Attitude2000 20:30, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Plot/Synopsis?
While all the "behind the scenes" features are fine, can someone please add a synopsis or plot summary? Without it, the article is missing a very important part of any film entry. Crito2161 00:43, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- I've added a plot synopsis. It's lengthy, but then, Gone With the Wind is twice as long as most movies. — Walloon 01:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Aunt Jemima
I have removed Aunt Jemima as an example of a "happy slave." That visual trademark was created in 1893 long after slavery ended, and nothing of the trademark itself indicated that Aunt Jemima is anything other than a servant, specifically a cook. The Aunt Jemima of recent years, without the head scarf and with pearl earrings, looks more like a middle class African-American housewife. Likewise, Uncle Ben's rice was named for an African-American rice grower in Texas, and the model for the trademark illustration was Frank Brown, the maitre d' of a Chicago restrauant. — Walloon 02:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Motd
Wikipedia:Motto of the day Check this! ....(Complain)(Let us to it pell-mell) 05:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Vivien Leigh's pay
I have removed the statement that Vivien Leigh was paid $15,000 for her performance and that that was a huge amount for the time. According to a trivia item in the IMDb, "Vivien Leigh worked for 125 days and received about $25,000. Clark Gable worked for 71 days and received over $120,000." Even $25,000 was not a huge amount; Leigh's biographer Alexander Walker wrote, "It was not a large sum; indeed it was beggarly considering it was the rate for a part that had engaged the wiles and wishes of established stars for two years and more. She was already receiving as much under her old [Alexander] Korda contract." — Walloon 16:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Aspect ratio
I removed the mention that the 1998 reissue restored the original aspect ratio. Actually, all releases except the 1967 widescreen release had the original aspect ratio (1.37:1). The problem wasn't with the film itself having the correct aspect ratio, the problem from 1954 onward that the projector apertures and movie screens were shaped for widescreen movies (1.85:1 or higher). The 1998 reissue compensated for this by shrinking the image so that the top and bottom of the image would still be onscreen, and then filling in the left and right side of the image with black bars. — Walloon 20:53, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Continuous showing
When I arrived in Atlanta in 1987 the film was shown every day at the CNN Center theater downtown. Supposedly this was going to be done in perpetuity, although the showings stopped at some time during the 1990s and eventually the theater closed down too. Does anyone have a more detailed timeline on this?
[edit] Title Incorrect? Top grossing?
Firstly, isn't the title of the film "Gone With the Wind"? Why would "With" not be capitalized? Secondly, the article claimed, "Gone with the Wind is the highest grossing film in box-office history, adjusted for inflation." Is that adjusted to 1939 dollars? Because GWtW had many rereleases. The source listed doesn't say how it arrived at its figures. It does say its list is only for American films and only for money made in the U.S, so it's not a valid source for the claim of "in box office history" anyway. In fact, I can't find any source that claims it's the highest grossing film worldwide (adjusted or unadjusted). Box Office Mojo says its the highest grossing film domestically, when adjusted. I feel with an improperly sourced claim that may or may not be true, it's best to remove it. Celedor15 22:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Looking at the title of the book, it does say, "Gone with the Wind". So that probably is the correct title of the film. Odd. Celedor15 22:30, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- The title on the film itself is displayed in all capital letters. But in publicity releases by Selznick International Pictures, the title was always given as Gone With the Wind. — Walloon 00:41, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Somebody put back in that Gone With the Wind is the all time box office grosser when adjusted for inflation, but a look at the link provided (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films#List_adjusted_for_inflation) says exactly what my concern expressed above was: "it treats all receipts as if they were earned in the initial year of release, which is clearly incorrect." Gone With the Wind has been released ten times or so, so to adjust all the money to 1939 dollars is not right. I'm taking the claim out of the article. If someone wants to put it back in, please show a source for this claim that adjusts the box office total correctly and deals with both international and domestic grosses. Celedor15 18:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] comparison with the book
too bad there is no comparison-with-the-book chapter in this article (like scarlet's son and daughter with her first husbands)... anyone? 84.227.159.190 08:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
