Talk:Grand Central Railway
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[edit] ORCATS
What is the ORCATS scheme? I have never heard of this. Simply south 19:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- It’s simply the way in which the proceeds from ticket sales are divided for routes that are served by multiple companies (for example, if you buy an open ticket from Newcastle to Edinburgh, you might end up travelling with either GNER or Virgin). It’s the reason they prefer to sell tickets specific to an individual journey, because then they get the entire fare rather than having to share it with their competitors. It appears to stand for ‘Operational Research Computerised Allocation of Tickets to Services’. David Arthur 19:58, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I have removed this as POV in the absence of proper [citation needed]
The York stop is controversial as it appears to be an ORCATS raid. Under the ORCATS scheme the proceeds of a ticket are divided between all the operators on a route based on the number of seats available between the two points. This would mean Grand Central would receive an income for every non-TOC specific ticket sold between London and York. It is likely that this would provide a large portion of Grand Central's revenue.[citation needed] ORCATS would appear to be an acronym for Operational Research Allocation of Tickets to Services. leaky_caldron 21:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Grand Central Railway
I propose changing the name of this article to Grand Central Railway, as the company never styles itself Grand Central Trains, but as (formally) the Grand Central Railway Company and (informally) Great Central. -- Picapica 11:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. There is already two Grand Central Railways, both near Loughborough. They are not related to this. Also Grand Central was the old name for Marylebone station. Finally this is about an upcoming TOC and Grand Central Trains is the official and commonly used name. Simply south 14:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, that was Great Central. Not sure about Marylebone now though. Simply south 14:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for changing your mind in the end, Ss. -- Picapica 09:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
I checked the website and it is Grand Central Railway Ltd. Marylebone is Great Central. Easy mistake. Simply south 11:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Picture
Why is there a picutre of a GNER HST at Edinburgh as the lead image? Yes, they are proposiing to use HSTs (and/or 222s) but they are not GNER and they have (afaik) never even expressed an interest in running services anywhere near Edinburgh?! Thryduulf 09:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree. I suggest removal of the GNER HST in Scotland and with the Grand Central HST (Or even Meridian). GNER aren't happy with GC with the recent High Court appeal been rejected. Chaz247 18:02, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I've replaced it with Image:Grand Central Train.PNG, which was the lead image back in June (it isn't clear from edit summries when or who changed it). Although it shows a 222 it is still better than a GNER HST. Thryduulf 23:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Err, but it is even confirmed on Grand Central's website that they are now own some HSTs. So couldn't say a GNER train (or similar) in York be used as they are also a Yorkshire-based company? Simply south 00:01, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
No. A train for any other operator is not apropriate for an article about Grand Central, just as an MML train would be inapropriate on the GNER article. If you can find a picture of a GC HST then we'll use that (assuming its OK license-wise), but in the mean time this is all we have AFAIK. Thryduulf 08:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] GU
There are now proposals for a seperate company, which i have created an article on. It is called Grand Union and is either a sister company or a child company. I'm sure there must be better terminology than this!
Anyway, the article is under Grand Union Railway.
Simply south 20:13, 14 November 2006 (UTC)