Talk:Greenwash

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March 6 '04 The current greenwash definition is about useless.

Wikipedia says: "The term [greenwash] arose in the aftermath of the Earth Summit held in Rio de Janeiro in June 1992."

Wrong. Try, at least since the May/June 1991 issue of _Greenpeace_ magazine.

From: Jym Dyer (jym@mica.berkeley.edu)
Subject: Media Coverage of Clorox's "Crisis Management Plan"
Newsgroups: alt.activism, talk.environment, alt.save.the.earth
Date: 1991-06-13           17:40:26 PST 

   "...The _New_York__Times_ has not run the story, 
and the _Wall_Street_Journal_ may incorporated it into a 
future story about greenwashing (green-washing is 
environmentally-oriented whitewashing).  The broadcast
media has not touched the story.

   " Incidentally, Bill Walker's written a splendid story about
greenwashing himself, in the latest (May/June 1991) issue of
_Greenpeace_ magazine."

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Media Coverage of Clorox's "Crisis Management Plan"
... The _New_York_ _Times_ has not run the story, and 
the _Wall_Street_Journal_ may incorporated it into a future story 
about greenwashing (green- washing is ...
alt.activism - Jun 13, 1991 by Jym Dyer - 

Re: Sleazy "Green" Marketing
Although it is very superficial, and often little more than out-and-out
"greenwashing", it *nevertheless reinforces that market trend*. ...
sci.environment - Feb 9, 1992 by Alan McGowen - 

NEWS & ACTIVISM: Tour Dudeath Protest and Action Alert ... Over 200 million people will be watching this event. What a great opportunity for exposing these greenwashing multi-nationals. More info to follow. Peace. ... rec.bicycles - May 28, 1991 by Jym Dyer - )

Global Greenpeace Headlines (April 26, 1991)
... 1 in Poisoned Water, in Radioactivity, in Greenwashing." 
Activists also offered Phosphoric Punch, Arsenic-Cola, Radioactive 
Sparkler and Cancer Cooler to ...
talk.environment - Apr 26, 1991 by Jym Dyer - View Thread (1 article)

Doug Bashford.

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March 6 '04 I'm not sure what happened to the previous versions of "Greenwash." I show only:

   ****Revision history
   *25 Jan 2004 . . Lowellian
   *23 Sep 2003 . . Lexor (Some NPOVing. Add wikilinks.)
   *23 Sep 2003 . . Viajero (new article)****

"Greenwashing" seems to have devolved into a confusing vague off-topic skree about the Earth Summit and sustainable development, etc, with an arguable and largely irrelevan

Biased: whatt claim that this was the word's source. Perhaps so, perhaps no. Regardless, other, better versions of the definion, with other examples (generic and specific, (such as "Green Forests Initiative)) have disappeared without a trace. (I authored the original.) Fact is, "greenwash" is commonly used with zero referance nor knowledge of that Earth Summit.

The current definion is so uselss, so Earth Summit-specific, I am forced to delete a link to it I was authoring. --Doug Bashford http://www.psnw.com/~bashford/e-sust-f.html

Well, Doug, thanks for your contribution, but the great think about Wikipedia, is that if you don't think something is accurate, you can fix it! Your primary research from Usenet and Google is of great help to us. You can help upgrade the article! Be our guest, if you don't want to or don't get around to it, I'll fix it myself. That's the great think about a wiki... --Lexor|Talk 08:37, 6 Mar 2004 (

biased article eg: what about all the efficient products that free markets and new technologies have created like better cars with lower milage and more efficient planes and in fact more cost effective and less fuel intensive everything. i mean the list goes on forever: better logistics and transportation, construction, distribution. in general if it costs less, it uses less fuel and is better, if the industry is regulated. i dont think we'd have a toyota prius with 55 miles per galon under communism

[edit] Examples

I think it would be good if this article had a brief list of examples of 'greenwashing'. It'd need to be carefully written and sourced, to be unbiased and keeping the correct side of libel laws! --duncan 11:37, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I do not believe the list of the worst offending companies adds to the article, and leans towards a non neutral point of view. G.pilkington-oates 17:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)