Talk:Grove City College

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Contents 1 Republicans? 2 Needs updates/More Information 3 Whitewashed? 4 Ivy League rumor? 5 Grove City College - Diversity 6 More traditions 7 (Lack of) Gay Rights 8 Major Changes 9 Marketing Management 10 School Policies Section 11 What about a printer? 12 Fraternity correction 13 Cost

[edit] Republicans?

While I imagine the quotation "most students and professors are registered Republicans" is true, it can't really be verified. We should probably remove that.

[edit] Needs updates/More Information

I'd be interested in taking up the task of Grove City College. I.E. Getting more info like President, History... (Making it compete with Carnegie Mellon's nice entry). Grove City has a lot of history that could be written about. Anyone have an comments and suggestions? I know that the WikiProject Universities is being debated. Should I start now?

--Emplynx 00:46, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)

Hey, go for it. I would suggest modeling the new page after a previously established college's page, but you seem to already have that idea. Consult college review sources such as Princeton Review for statistics about the College; as a student there you should also have access to more detailed information that outsiders may not. Don't ever hesitate to add relative information to Wikipedia. Enlighten us! --BDD 02:05, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I really don't know what you are talking about, but I worked a little bit on the definition. I think im going to work on it some more later this month, cuz it really is tiny. --Alphachimp 12:25, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Whitewashed?

I don't mean to offend anyone when I say that I've heard of some questionable events from GCC's past, namely racist policies. I admit I don't know much about the specifics of these events, but I understand they were significant, and indeed came to this page hoping to read something about them. I believe that either (a) this page is whitewashed, written with a biased POV; or (b) any stories I have heard have been greatly exaggerated. Can anyone comment on this? --BDD 02:03, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Geez, I've been here 3 years, have checked out every piece of gossip I could (like the Dean getting fired for drunken misconduct, tunnels under the quad, students having secret abortions), and I've never heard of old racist policies. So if the page is missing some real info, it's not a whitewash - I'll post anything I can find and source. --Nick Douglas 20:30, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ivy League rumor?

If we can't substantiate it, we ought to delete it -- WP is not a rumor mill. 18.187.0.44 19:43, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

I agree, and I'm removing it until we can figure out if it's true or not. --Nothlit 20:33, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Grove City College - Diversity

I actually publish a guidebook on Grove City College, and here is a quote from an actual student there ...

"This College teaches European culture to the descendants of those Europeans. There are very few people of color here, and it is a serious problem. When I interviewed at the college, I asked my interviewer why there seemed to be so few non-white people here. He gave me a rather flimsy answer about how the college is working on that, and, I have to say, I don’t think that the college has made an effort to reach out to students of color. This creates a campus where diversity is gauged by what church denomination you belong to, instead of an actual diversity of people and views. This, in turn, insulates people from what they will encounter in the real world, and is one of the defining characteristics of the Grove City bubble."

from Grove City College - Off The Record

[edit] More traditions

The entry needs some info on the traditional "creeking" of recently engaged male students. There may be other traditions worth noting. --Nick Douglas 16:21, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] (Lack of) Gay Rights

GCC is also becoming central to the ex-gay movement, with Warren Throckmorton's prominence. There should be mention of a) his role b) the school's policies (which shifted from outlawing homosexuality to homosexual activity) and c) LGBT students at the school.

Quite frankly, I don't feel that it bears that much significance to the school article. The homosexuality policy does not appear to be a major issue. Perhaps it would be valuable to create an article about Throckmorton? --Alphachimp ^talk 04:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major Changes

I made two changes to the list of majors at Grove City College. Recently entrepeneurship was added to the list of offered majors. Also, the religion major at Grove City College is distinctly and purposefully not a religion major, since it only deals with Christian theology, history, etc. So I changed it to Christian Thought, which is the name used by GCC.

[edit] Marketing Management

Marketing management is a major offered by Grove City College, as referenced on the following page:

Business Department

Please discuss future changes on this page. Thanks.--Alphachimp 19:21, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

My apologies. The change to the majors list was added with a lot of other nonsense by the same IP at the same time, so I chalked it up to vandalism. Sorry about that. --TangentIdea 01:48, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks for being conscientious. --Alphachimp ^talk 03:02, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] School Policies Section

I just changed the order around a bit in the school policies section (it appears to be mostly about alcohol.) I think it's a little bit more logical. I also changed some of the grammar around that section. --Alphachimp ^talk 04:26, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What about a printer?

I do not understand the entry about the kid that threw a printer out the window and got suspended. Are there any more details? Is this appropriate for the article? --Captain Flatulence 01:33, Dec 13, 2006 (UTC)

It's ongoing, so it'll be updated with new developments and eventually deleted if nothing significant comes of it. For the moment, it's sparked a 400-student-strong protest and is still gaining momentum. --72.23.224.17 06:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Uh, no, it won't. The fact that some students appear to have had a run in with a college's administration is not sufficiently notable to merit inclusion in said college's wikipedia article. Alphachimp 07:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree with Alphachimp. These kinds of "student uprisings" are far too common, not only at Grove City but at schools across the country. Unless it draws attention from a larger community (e.g., the UCLA Taser incident) then I don't see how it has any relevance on Wikipedia. Great fodder for the editorial page of The Collegian, maybe, but not here. --Nothlit 04:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fraternity correction

I just wanted to let you guys know that I edited the fraternity section by deleting Omicron XI from the list of fraternities that have died out and took a block class. I'm new to using wikipedia so I'm not sure of the proper etiquette involved in changing something (whether or not I should have discussed it first) but I know first hand that that is not true. I would be very interested in where that information originally came from. The Okies are alive and well and have never taken a block class (and we will be celebrating our 60 year anniversary this year). Thanks and please feel free to contact me about any Omicron Xi or Grove City College related questions (bkovach@midsouth.rr.com). Bkovach 21:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cost

Not sure if it's worth making the change, but as of this year the cost is bumped up to $17,634, which depending on your perspective may or may not be "about $16000." Due to my own desire for round numbers, might it be better to say "less than $20000" which will be true for another few years (most likely) and still sort of sets it apart from many similar schools which are in the $30000 range? Again, it's not an important issue, but in my mind "about 16k" implies a much more precise figure than "about" a round number, such as 15k or 20k. Oh, and their FAQ has been updated to show that price, not sure if it needs to be cited or not.