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[edit] PAFroundel.png

Hi, could you upload your image to wikimedia commons please? I would like to use it on another language wikipedia Zz99 12:55, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for the comment you just left on my talk page. I feel a little shouted down at the moment but will keep going! --Jim (Talk) 18:45, 31 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Image:13brewb.jpg

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[edit] A Song of Stone

Ah, now I know where the editing conflict came from -- lost my connection, thought article got scrambled somehow. Sorry! Pete Tillman 05:58, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Usenet link-- Did you have a look at the discussion? An unusually informative one, I thought, worthy of an exception to the "Links normally to be avoided" at WP:EL. Cheers, Pete Tillman 22:46, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Pete. Yes, it looked a good discussion, but I remain unconvinced it adds verifiably to the article. --Guinnog 08:21, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:80zazou.jpg

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[edit] Thank you

...for the barnstar! I didn't set out solely to edit Scottish football articles, it just seems to be one of the few areas where I have anything to add. The scale and scope of Wikipedia never ceases to impress me. Caledonian Place 09:10, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] recent edits to John Steinbeck by 68.9.235.63

Have you checked the edits made to the Steinbeck article by 68.9.235.63 on January 1? The following material was removed:

He fathered two sons with his second wife Gwyndolyn Steinbeck (nee Conger). Thomas Myles Steinbeck was born in 1944 and their second son, John Steinbeck IV was born in 1946. The marriage ended soon after their second son's birth.
In 1950, he married Elaine Scott, the ex-wife of actor Zachary Scott. He remained with her until his death.

I don't have enough knowledge of Steinbeck to revert any but obvious vandalism and now a further vandal edit has been reverted leaving the removal of the above material in danger of becooming a fait accompli. JFPerry 15:09, 2 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] New to Wikipedia

After your "warnings" I tried to get in touch with you and asked you for {help} but you never replied. I have worked for 13 months with some people to who supported my investigation, and I thought that the facts that I brought to light are important for this wonderful site. Through Wikipedia anybody can see what is happening in terms of Marilyn Monroe, and the fraud that is happening every day. You seem to pursue me for whatever reason. Dunno really why, but I told you that I have no clue how to do things correctly, as I am not as perfect in terms of this computer language (editing etc) but I would appreciate if you would help, instead of requesting to have me kicked out. It seems like very political and everybody is important. But can't you just see what I have found out? Remember David against Goliath? That is what happened in this case, Guinnog. At least I signed in and have a working signature. I just need some help here. Is that so hard for you to understand? Please think about this, too. I really would appreciate it. I don't know any Wikipedia specialist in my circle of friends! Mmmovie 06:21, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, this is a better way to communicate, so well done. I wish I could help you, but as I tried to explain before, this is an encyclopedia we are writing. It is not a place for a campaign of the sort you appear to be waging. Can I suggest you read up on some of our policies (WP:NOR, WP:V and WP:NPOV would be a good start), and then you need not feel so clueless. I am sorry if you feel I am pursuing you; I assure you I am only acting to protect the integrity of the article against your repeated addition of unverified information. When you are ready, and really feel you understand our policies, you may try again in the article talk page. Meanwhile you can start on gathering verifiable references for the changes you want to make. Best of luck, --Guinnog 06:28, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Can you please tell me how you came up with the claim that I violated the copyrights in the "Marilyn Monroe--the exhbit" site, when the info and article was written by me. You also deleted ALL the information that I added to the Marilyn Monroe site. I corrected many false info on that site and you just erased the entire site and put your verion back in. Please remember that I have studied the subject and topic Marilyn Monroe for many years and that I am a guest lecturer at USC in LA. Mmmovie 19:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Glasgow Subway

Re: Great edits. Keep up the good work please.

I don't know if that was sarcastic or not; I was attempting to update the page to reflect the fact that the Subway is now policed by the British Transport Police, but for some reason inserting the reference resulted in the rest of the page below the paragraph in question disappearing. The subsequent edits were rv's to undo the damage. The page has a method of referencing I've not encountered before. The reference in question is 'Police for Glasgow Subway', The Times, 3 January 2006. I'd be grateful if you could insert that, if you know how. Best, 86.0.203.120 19:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Sorry, it's just a bit difficult to read the tone here sometimes, and since I'd just buggered up the page in question... Thanks, and best regards 86.0.203.120 22:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] haha

these live journal emos are calling you a douche! rofl [1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.85.201.250 (talkcontribs).

Thanks for sharing this month-old trash with me. Last time I looked the article was still deleted. I'm not sure who that leaves looking more like a "douche", the people trying to put rubbish on our encyclopedia or you who think it was funny. --Guinnog 02:18, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:AlHaynes.jpg

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[edit] Earhart

Even so, I'm sorry if my nudge to ponder seemed too harsh. Gwen Gale 03:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] edit conflicts

Heh heh. I'm done now, thanks :) Gwen Gale 06:03, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Thanks

BTW - you just answered a question I had about vandal warnings on user pages... If a user/IP is blatant, is it okay to skip to bv rather than the test# progression and now I know (from your warning on User_talk:24.161.64.237). Katalaveno 02:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mark Bellinghaus

See above. I've edited first part of article, but we've had an edit conflict!!! Please advise. Shall I overwrite article (first part) with my revision? Tyrenius 21:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, don't worry. I've integrated my edit with yours. I'll have a look at the second part now. Tyrenius 21:22, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Done the second part. Please check through... Tyrenius 21:59, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

You did all the spade work - I just tidied up (the easy part). I think it now makes a coherent viable article. Tyrenius 22:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Wiki working as it should do, I believe, but, alas, all to often doesn't... Tyrenius 22:32, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Just want to say I think you did an excellent job improving this article! I'm not 100% sure he meets WP:BIO, but if the article is kept it will be because of you and your efforts. Ever considered joining WikiProject Wikify? We could certainly use your help. 23:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RedRollerskate (talkcontribs).

[edit] Peculiar happening

I was looking at a vandalism warning at User talk:68.59.100.165 and just out of dumb curiosity I clicked on its link for sandbox and somehow ended up HERE. I can't reproduce this but it makes me wonder what's going on. I can't make the code display properly here so you'll need to edit this post, but the text at that page is:

<html> <head> <title>Sandbot Manual Run</title> </head> <body>

Getting a page to check if we're logged in on wikipedia:en
Getting page [[Wikipedia:Sandbox]]
Changing page [[Wikipedia:Sandbox]]

Redirecting back to page in 5 seconds...

[[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox">Wikipedia:Sandbox</a>]]

<script language="javascript"> </script> </body> </html>

Looks innocent enough, but I still wonder how I got there and if it's possible to somehow hijack a wikilink. --CliffC 01:54, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] second opinion

I'd take your advice if I considered you to be neutral but your behaviour of ignoring Wobble's previous comments and focusing on the last in PAIN report suggests that you are not. Perhaps you might consider taking a similar course of action to what you have suggested. Please behave yourself. Lukas19 04:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

"The sort of out of date racialist thinking that normal people (that's 99% of us) think only nutters believe any more."
"There was a cite to "racial reality", a racist nazi site as far as I can see, with the reliability and accuracy one would expect from a bunch of neonazi thickos (who ever met an intelligent racist? Not me)." - (While commenting on neo nazis may be acceptable, he correlates it with racists after commenting on my "racist ideas" and after calling me "Ah well my little nordicist friend".)
1)Using someone's affiliations as a means of dismissing or discrediting their views — regardless of whether said affiliations are mainstream or extreme.
2)Profanity directed against another contributor.
3)Negative personal comments and "I'm better than you" attacks, such as "You have no life."
4)political epithets
"you just want to make claims that science supports your racist ideas" + Similar comments:
Accusatory comments such as "George is a troll", or "Laura is a bad editor" can be considered personal attacks if said repeatedly, in bad faith, or with sufficient venom. Lukas19 16:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the block

Thanks for the block on HZsanto. I would have gone with the classic "at user request" block reason myself. I always like that one :-) Sorry you got dragged into the whole Lukas19 thing, but I thought your latest response was excellent. If you want a really interesting one check out User:Sportsguru9999 but I'd strongly advise staying out of an active involvement as its a real time sink/house of mirrors. Great spectator sport though. Best as always, Gwernol 05:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy one year!

1 year of contribution
1 year of contribution

Hey, that's great. One year of contributions to Wikipedia - congratulations. In that time, you've made 24,265 edits to Wikipedia, including 16,334 to main space and 4,559 to user talk. It may be time to buy a new keyboard. Keep up the great work, Gwernol 13:44, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Image:AndrewGreig.jpg

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[edit] Image:AndyRitchie.jpg

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[edit] The Beatles article

It isn't a UK/US spelling thing. See User:Spellmaster for details. Thanks for caring about spelling. --Guinnog 02:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, spelling is a big issue for this article. See [2]. Because the article is about British subject matter, spellings should be British spellings. Steelbeard1 03:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes indeed. However, as I said above, it isn't a US/Uk thing as "humourous" is incorrect worldwide. --Guinnog 03:51, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
The BBC spells it "humourous" as mentioned in [3] so my statement stands. Steelbeard1 03:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Well done for finding a typo in the BBC site! However, Wikipedia, with all modern paper dictionaries spells it "humorous", so my point still stands. See [4], [5], [6], [7]. --Guinnog 04:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Award

Hi Guinnog. Thank you so much for your kind gesture. As my first barnstar (other than a random act of kindness award), I'll genuinely treasure it!! Thanks again, Rockpocket 07:40, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair Use Violations

In my opinion, the FIU hasn't been violated. Those album covers have been plastered on the Chili Pepper's page for well over a year and numerous admins have, undoubtedly, seen them. NSR77 03:34, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


As you wish. NSR77 01:19, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not a novel

Yep I just noticed that, sorry! Tim! 22:29, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Queen (band) Edit

Hi! Thanks for leading me to that discussion. I'll look into it. DiscordantNoteCntrbtns 13:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Expansion

Yes I shall expand Very Funny Ads now. Amlder20 00:00, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

May I declare that Expansion is complete and more shall be added soon. Amlder20 00:17, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I like quick results so let me have your reply soon, of course I won't argue if you decide to delete it still. Amlder20 00:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Agreed and there will be more to add, I'll do some research into it though, I do believe it's suitable for an encyclopedia and I believe that the website has good merits. Amlder20 00:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dates and numbers

If you behave in a manner more deserving of respect, you'll get it. We discussed this utterly thoroughly last year and resolved it to most people's satisfaction, and you've just ignored all of this, written up your own opinions, and then proceeded assuming some sort of mass consensus to implement your own preferences. I'm fed up with having to deal with this sort of arrogance. As for "not commenting at all", I would dearly like to never have to comment on this issue again, but since you've insisted on reopening it again, I have little choice. Rebecca 12:51, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to dance around the point with you. You are not trying to build consensus; you've ignored the *months* of the discussion, and the consensus outcome fo that discussion, asserted your own personal opinion, and insisted that that be the basis for an amendment that you assert must occur. We already have something that respects all preferences but those of the absolutists; yours would force your particular absolute into the guideline. This is the umpteeth time I've had someone noisily assert "I want my way regardless of everyone else! Now!"; why on earth would you expect me to be sympathetic when you're trying to run roughshod over my preferences? Rebecca 13:02, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Please don't use semantics. You're taking a guideline which quite specifically neither advises delinking or linking, for the precise reason that there is no consensus to do either, and changing it to delinking in nearly all cases, which happens to be your personal preference. Your every post on that page belies an attitude of "my preference is better, and we must use this as a basis for an amendment which must occur". As to your final words, I have commented on the proposal, but I have also commented on the proposer insofar as his attitude affects this, and I do not apologise for that. Rebecca 13:22, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Look, you're still missing the fundamental problem here. You are never going to get everyone involved in this dispute to agree on a strict proposal; people's preferences are simply too divergent. You simply cannot get people who believe that date links should be always delinked, that date links should be mostly linked, that date links should be linked about half the time, that date links should be mostly delinked, or that date links should be always delinked to settle on a mutually agreed guideline here. This is the precise reason that, after discussing the issue through, we settled on the current version, which allows plenty of discretion. The alternative, as with your version, is to take the preference of yourself and a couple of others and push that on everyone else under the guise of "improving the policy". This is why I'm so frustrated with this, and will be continue to be so long as you insist on pushing this line. I also resent your consistent patronising attitude on this issue, and your apparent assumption that I'd fall into line with you if I "just calmed down". Rebecca 13:39, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scotch whisky reversion

Please stop reverting my contribution. It is absolutely not inappropriate for me to fix a broken link in the article (www.maltmaniacs.com). You broke the link again in your haste and it now points to a wonderfully informative 404. Nor is it inappropriate for me to add a link to a site entirely devoted to tasting notes on malt whisky. Next time please better serve the wikipedia community by checking your changes before you commit them instead of hastily and bullishly reverting new contributions. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tannoy (talkcontribs).

[edit] Flag on Queen article

Hi, I noticed you reverted my removal of the England flag on the Queen (band) article. What purpose would you say it serves there? Why an England flag rather than a UK one? Thanks in advance --Guinnog 21:21, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello, I have already commented on that matter at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style. I would also have to say that your comments at Talk:Queen (band) are not really productive, but I will go into detail why over there. - Cyrus XIII 21:31, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal User:24.105.136.83

These have now been reverted by me or by someone else, I have not issued him a warning because the Kearny, New Jersey one is particularly nasty and unfortunately sat there for a month. I am hoping you will warn with the proper admin words, not my experience dealing with such types so far. I think User:24.105.136.83 is also User:Famivir, who earlier today made a similar change to New York Law School. Thank you. --CliffC 02:22, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

My error, the Kearny NJ one (12 Decmber accusation of past plagiarism by a local publisher) was reverted almost instantly, sorry. Now I have reverted an innocent person (no one mentioned here), and so on, but all is now well in Kearny NJ. --CliffC 02:41, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Me 262=

I did, nay? user:Moby_D Moby D 17:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of Northern Ireland

Hi, I agree with your moves on the Northern Ireland and Celtic FC pages with regards to the Northern Ireland Flag issue. I don't know if you've seen the edit war at Template:Precedence also about the use of the NI flag. Do you think that the flag should always be used to represent NI (where other nation flags are also included) as I do? Astrotrain 22:45, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

It doesn’t represent the people of Northern Ireland, it isn’t the legal flag of Northern Ireland and therefore shouldn’t be purported as such--Vintagekits 22:54, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I know that is what you think Vintagekits. However, Wikipedia is not a legal document and there is a strong feeling that geographical articles like the NI one need to have a flag on them. As I've said, the subject has been discussed thoroughly in talk (most recently in November 2006 I think) and the consensus was to keep the flag, but with a disclaimer. You may both be interested in the policy discussion I am involved in at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Flag icons - manual of style entry? I believe there are far too many flags in Wikipedia, and this pointless argument is a good example of the sort of trouble they can cause. However, articles like Northern Ireland seem to need a flag and I accept that. It then follows that we need to choose a flag. For all the imperfections of the Ulster Banner, there isn't really a viable alternative. I hope that makes sense. --Guinnog 23:03, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
A more appropriate flag for Northern Ireland would be the standard Irish flag with a little slice in the upper right that looks like the Union Jack. Wahkeenah 02:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Great idea. Next time you're over, you can suggest it. Erm, just don't start reading any long books before you do it! (Thanks for the comment, it made me smile. This comment does not constitute legal advice) --Guinnog 02:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I might just do that. Nothing breaks the ice like getting both sides mad at you. :) Wahkeenah 03:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disregard of your warning to cease wp:point

Hi Guinnog,

I'm 172, an active editor of Wikipedia's articles on modern history and political economy since 2002. I believe this is the first our accounts have crossed paths on the site.

It has been brought to my attention that a user you blocked on 01:46, 28 December 2006 for "violation of wp:point" [8] has been continuing to disrupt Wikipedia, despite your warning a couple of weeks ago.

In a heavily trafficked article with the disclaimer "This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject," this user has been disrupting the work of "'right wing' editors," whom he/she calls a 'problem at hand.' [9] To make that point on the talk page, he/she has declared (1) "I will revert" the established version of the introduction [10]; and (2) plans for "large scale" reversions of the article. [11] To make that point in the article, the user has been flagging scores of sentences with unnecessary 'citation needed' tags. WGee, a brilliant young student who prolificially edits many articles that fall in my range of expertise, promptly explained to him/her why elementary facts do not require citations. [12] In response, this user accused WGee of vandalism, promoting WGee to direct him/her to 'WP:VANDAL and WP:AGF before accusing me of vandalism.' [13] His/her continued reversions forced WGee to explain yet again why elementary facts do not require citations: "The article's content is so broad and uncontroversial that everything can be contained in the general references at the bottom of the page or from the internally linked articles." [14] Still, the reversions continued, with the user declaring, "even the most basic facts require varifiability" [apparently a misspelling of verifiability]. [15]

If you have time to again enforce WP:POINT and offer this user further instructions on proper editing, I expect normal functioning on the article to resume, which other editors will greatly appreciate.

Happy New Year,

172 | Talk 02:40, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the extremely prompt reply! Best regards, 172 | Talk 04:25, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

You're very welcome. --Guinnog 04:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] User:Ohconfucius deletion proposals

User:Ohconfucius has nominated a large number of Scottish Railway stations for deletion. Many of these are being developed as part of WP:TIS. I have removed the {{prod}}. However reading the user page he may contest this. Thoughts? I suggest replies are consolidated at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Transport in Scotland. Stewart 20:18, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy speedy

Thank you very much, Guinnog, for that very fast speedy. I really appreciate it. :) Hope all is well. Cheers, Sarah 23:20, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] How Dare You

How dare you revert me contribution to the United Kingdom article in the See Also part. I added NATO to See Also and you have got rid of it. Why? Because you disagree with things I contribute? So you thought you would have a go trying to get back at me? Oh yeah it's not the first time apparently you've stalked other people undoing all their work trying to get back at them for disagreeing with you. Lay off my work and get a life. P.S. I'm notifying other Admins Lucy Locket 00:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I didn't revert your change, I added it to the relevant part (defence) rather than the see also section. Why did you blank the message I sent you? --Guinnog 00:28, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Now you say I'm a 'sock' which I think means being someone else. Last time I looked I was me so I don't think so some how. Lucy Locket 00:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Me 262

This - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Messerschmitt_Me_262&diff=prev&oldid=101519906 - was just a mistake, if you mean't redirect.Moby D 13:28, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Image:Underagedrinking.jpg

Hello. Yeah, the person in the picture is my mate Josh. You could try to contact him on his user page (which is User:Joshy89) about verifying his age in the photo, but he rarely edits Wikipedia, so I'm not sure if he'd get the message though. KingIvan 04:45, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: IP

Thanks for the heads up. Will just observe now. :) -Penwhale | Blast the Penwhale 14:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Admin Help Request

Can I remove a 'blatant vandal' warning from a users talk page? User talk:62.253.219.178 has has one posted that does meet not the criteria for such as warning and the post was correct if 'untidy' Weggie 15:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

OK - Thanks for the quick response Weggie 15:11, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] United Airlines Flight 232

Thanks mate - keep up the good work yourself... Cheers, Ian Rose 15:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please Stop taking away the biographical information I added

I am Will Overstreet and the information on my page was corrected by me before you did your own editing of facts out of it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Woverstr (talkcontribs) 16:10, 19 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] RfA for FT2

Thank you for your helpful comments. I shall reply to FT2 and hopefully that will be an end of it.--Taxwoman 23:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trainspotting

Hi thanks for the feedback - I've replied to you on my talk page. All the best, Valenciano 01:49, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:911ct

since you have an interest in this template as a contributor to it you may wish to comment on the nomination for its deletion Fiddle Faddle 15:25, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Billy Warnock

You left a note for me that you had marked an article I was creating for deletion as it was not 'notable'. Leaving aside it was my grandfather (I consider him notable for that fact alone), he was brother to Jimmy Warnock and a fellow boxer of the period. Billy has an interesting boxing history, which I am currently researching at the moment. Your action, whilst understandable no doubt from your perspective, is very disheartening and damaging to what I am trying to achieve. Please withdraw it and give me a chance to finish it. Yours darryl 19:06, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:BITE

Actually, it was inadvertent. I was still in "nail vandal" mode and meant to type 'rv' instead of 'rvv.' —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 19:06, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks :)

Not quite sure where to start. Just plain thanks for many things, spoken and unspoken, in which you suggested a re-nom after my first RfA, and then helped me through the uncertainties of RfA when I was nominated a second time by Jossi. You were a tremendous and untiring help in moral support :)

I'd like to feel I will live up to everyone's better opinion, on the basis this'd be the best and most relevant "thank you" I can think of for your support.

If you feel like watchlisting User:FT2/Advice sought, I'd appreciate it :) it's my initial step to ensuring this new access is taken as responsibly as possible, during the next while, and to get advice as needed for specific situations while I'm new to this side of things. I don't have much fear of unbalanced usage, but I would like to regularly double check things which I'm thinking, over the next month or so, so that I learn from good views, and this is a good way to do it.

Otherwise, do keep in touch, happy editing in 2007, and once again - many thanks! :)

[edit] Category:Irish-Scots

Hi Guinnog. I notice you nominated this category for deletion, and while I voted Keep, I recognise there is a significant amount of unsubstantiated nonsense that has been added to it and needs weeded out. I see you have already removed a large number and would be willing to help. However, I also commented on the cfd that clear criterion is required as to who should or should not be considered Irish-Scots. My own opinion is that, as other dual-nationality categories such as Italian-Scots, German-Americans etc all categorise on the basis of parents birth, people who can be proven with refs to have Irish parentage, or maybe grand-parentage, should be included, rather than only people who consider themselves Irish-Scots. A full discussion may be needed but in the interim I thought I might ask your opinion, or if you know of a wikipedia precedent to follow. Caledonian Place 15:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Willie Maley seems to fit the definition of an Irish-Scot according to the category. He was born in Ireland and moved to Scotland at an early age. Captkrob 16:21, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

I edited the artice and then reverted back with an explanatory note on the edit summary. This is pretty normal in my experience. Someone else then took up the baton. I think I'm being dealt with a bit heavy handed here. Jooler 23:49, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

PS, thanks for that :) /wangi 00:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flags

Thanks! I'm hoping others think they're "simply fantastic" as well.

It's just funny that they overuse flags on an essay about not overusing flags. Just H 00:50, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it's intentionally ironic. --Guinnog 10:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dear Vegi

You do realise that Guinness uses a fish based fining agent called isinglass to brew the black stuff? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.90.198.171 (talkcontribs).

Oh yes. --Guinnog 10:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mark Gallagher

The recent vandalism to his article has been "interesting" to say the least, no? - Dudesleeper 12:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes I wondered at that myself. Worth keeping an eye on some of these. See also Talk:Charles Kennedy. --Guinnog 12:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Ruh-roh. Regarding Gallagher, I just found this. - Dudesleeper 12:26, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, that's helpful. I've amended the article accordingly. --Guinnog 12:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
"Ruh-roh" is my impersonation of Scooby-Doo. A bad impersonation, apparently. - Dudesleeper 12:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Glasgow Subway: Subway Challenge

I have difficulty understanding why you removed the paragraph about the Subway Challenge. In your notes you refer to it as being "considered unencyclopedic", however this passage seems as relevant to the Glasgow Subway page as, for example, the Subcrawl or the Underground Song, which survived your edit.

In the mean time I have included the text in the discussion page and feel that it should be included in the main article.

I'd appreciate it if you could better explain your point of view.

Was 86.16.103.243

Now Ottb19 23:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Amelia Earhart article

This is the current introductory paragraph: "Amelia Mary Earhart (July 24, 1897 – missing as of July 2, 1937) was a noted American aviator who disappeared over the central Pacific Ocean during a circumnavigational flight attempt in 1937. She was an influential early female pilot and the first woman to receive the Distinguished Flying Cross."

I had submitted the following: "Amelia Mary Earhart' (July 24, 1897 – missing as of July 2, 1937) was a noted American aviator whose aviation career included many milestones. She became the first woman and second pilot to fly solo across the Atlantic, on the fifth anniversary of Charles Lindbergh's Atlantic crossing. She was an influential early female pilot who was instrumental in the formation of The Ninety-Nines, a women's pilots' organization. Among her many awards and achievements, Earhart was the first woman to receive the Distinguished Flying Cross. After setting numerous records, she disappeared over the central Pacific Ocean during a circumnavigational flight attempt in 1937, sparking a near-mythical public fascination with her life, career and ultimate disappearance." Word count: 116 words.

It was removed by another editor who indicated: 1. Introductory passage is too long 2. Citing wordy headers in other flawed articles doesn't solve the PoV and clarity issue here at all 3. It's far too long and sounds like a promotional blurb. When you've finished expanding the article body I plan on discussing the cheerleading PoV there too. If we need to start citing WP policy that's ok. Gwen Gale

Guinnog, I value your opinion, what do you think about my edit? FYI the Wikipedia articles on Thomas Jefferson was 250 words, Abraham Lincoln: 147 and the Wright Brothers: 199 words. Bzuk 12:40 22 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Compromise

I think one conflict that has become pretty glaring as of late is that many of the pro-CF editors don't want to see WP:FRINGE as a justification for edits. This to me is pretty distasteful. If you look at the stuff I'm trying to remove from the article, it's basically an unvetted laundry list published by a CF-proponent that is as neutrally considered as any propaganda which attempts to make weird sorts of appeals to authority. This is my beef, but I'd love to see a compromise. -_ScienceApologist 03:36, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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