Template talk:Gutenberg author

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This is a template to generate links to the Project Gutenberg. This template should be used exclusively for AUTHORS, ILLUSTRATORS, TRANSLATORS, and persons with similar roles in book production.

To link directly to a BOOK, use template:Gutenberg.

Contents 1 Process 2 Examples of correct usage 3 Talk 4 Problem, Henry James example 5 See also: new pge.rastko.net link. 6 New simpler syntax.

[edit] Process

1. Go to the Project Gutenberg web site.
2. Using the online catalog, search for the author you want to link via the template.
3. Find the author listing, such as: Harrison, James A. (James Albert) (1848-1911)
4. Edit the wikipedia page and add in the Gutenberg author template. If the author is the only one by that name on Project Gutenberg, use no parameters in the template. If needed (for instance, if the page is disambiguated, like Edward Thomas (poet), set the 'id' variable equal to the author's name in this format: James_A._Harrison. The 'id' sets the actual link to the Project Gutenberg database. The underlines "_" are required; if spaces are used, the link URL is truncated
5. You may also, in the case of a disambiguated page title, set the 'name' variable in the template to equal the author's name how you wish it to appear, such as: James A. Harrison or James Albert Harrison. The 'name' is for Wikipedia display purposes only.

[edit] Examples of correct usage

• On Jonathan Swift:
• Works by Jonathan Swift at Project Gutenberg

{{gutenberg author}}

• On Henry James:
• Works by Henry James at Project Gutenberg

{{gutenberg author | id=Henry_James_(1843-1916)}}

• On Edward Thomas (poet):
• Works by Edward Thomas at Project Gutenberg

{{gutenberg author | id=Edward_Thomas | name=Edward Thomas}}

Note: A partial name, such as {{gutenberg author | id=Jon | name=Jon}} will generate a list of all authors with "Jon" anywhere in the name. You can also use birth or death year only like this: (1843-) or (-1916) if the other date is unknown or uncertain. The parens and hyphen are required.

[edit] Talk

Additional discussion should be appended here.

[edit] Problem, Henry James example

How do we link, say, Henry James? If we try Henry_James, it will bring up a list of all authors with "Henry James" anywhere in the name. --Prosfilaes 09:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

I wish I had a good answer for that, and it is something I recognized as a flaw. The short answer is not to use the "gutenberg author" template, and make your own external link to: http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/authors/j#a113, the problem with this link is that someone may need to fix it later on. Let me give you some background. . . . Project Gutenberg assigns a code to each author (that is what "j#a113" is the above link). Unfortunely, they do not claim that this code has any permanance. Gutenberg specifically requests that outsiders use one of their canonical URLs, or ones that they pledge to continually support. The canonical URL format for an author is: "John_Q._Public" rather than "q#9999". In some cases it does not work well, and http://www.gutenberg.org/author/Henry_James is a perfect example. On the other hand, this ambiguity is sometimes helpful, as for http://www.gutenberg.org/author/William_Shakespeare because it also shows the category for his spurious works, that otherwise a user would not see if he went to http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/authors/s#a65. --Eoghanacht 16:48, 2005 May 4 (UTC)

You now can use id=Henry_James_(1843-1916) to disambiguate. Works by Henry James at Project Gutenberg You can also give (42-) or (-42) if the other date is unknown. The parens and the hyphen are required. For any question regarding the Project Gutenberg web site contact me at webmaster@gutenberg.org . We are very interested in collaborating with Wikipedia, so we'll quickly fix anything that can be fixed. --Marcello 10:36, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] See also: new pge.rastko.net link.

For authors who wrote largely in Cyrillic languages (as well as many others), they may have more works on pge.rastko.net than on the U.S. Gutenberg site. There's now a template for them too. See Template:Gutenberg-europe author.

 *{{gutenberg-europe author|id=5579|name=Vuk Stefanović Karadžić}}

which generates

• Works by Vuk Stefanović Karadžić at Project Gutenberg Europe

If someone would like to write Project Gutenberg Europe, it'd be much appreciated; red links are ugly.

Note that PGE also mirrors all of the U.S. Gutenberg content. Only etexts with IDs above 100000 on pge.rastko.net are PGE-specific. Unless there's PGE-specific content, there's no compelling reason to have two links to identical material. Enjoy! grendel|khan 14:19, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New simpler syntax.

The template is backwards-compatible. but it now supports leaving out the name entirely.

Thus, on Theodor Hertzka, the code

{{gutenberg author}}

produces

Works by Theodor Hertzka at Project Gutenberg

Substitutions can still be used as before if the link doesn't generate properly. grendel|khan 09:20, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Something to watch out for is if this is used in an article which is later moved to a different title, resulting in a broken link. Andrew Sly 02:14, 19 August 2006 (UTC)