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Contents 1 Headquarters location 2 Motion to Merge 3 superb breakfast menu 4 Carl's Jr. 5 Advertisements and Carl's Jr. 6 Locations 7 Burnout Revenge? 8 Minnesota 9 History/Commentary 10 Menu List 11 Red Burrito dual branding 12 Menu items 13 Merge 14 Extreme POV

[edit] Headquarters location

I changed the headquarters location since CKE moved the Hardee's offices to St. Louis from Rocky Mount in 2001.

[edit] Motion to Merge

I suggest an expansion of Carl's Jr. article with detailed information regarding Hardee's and change of Hardee's article to a simple redirect to the Carl's Jr. article. Anybody against it? - Deron Dantzler 17:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I would definitely vote no. I think the Carl's Jr article should have a summary of the Hardee's article (mentioning the takeover/merger) and one of these sorts of links:

Main article: Hardee's

--Skidoo 22:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] superb breakfast menu

this is POV statement without any corroboration... what's on the menu? what about that menu is "superb"? Pedant 02:11, 2005 Jan 14 (UTC)

[edit] Carl's Jr.

Is Hardee's a variant of Carl's Jr.? I believe they both use a similar logo, owned by the same parent company and have similar food menus. --SuperDude 03:11, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes, it appears they are the same company with different names for different regions. Unforunately their websites don't explain this very well. See carlsjr.com and hardees.com 70.230.190.154 22:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

The menus aren't exactly the same. Carl's Jr. doesn't sell roast beef sandwiches anymore. They discontinued the California Roast Beef in the 80's (probably the worst mistake the company has ever made. The CRB was the best roast beef sandwich on the planet. The second worst misteke was discontinuing the wedge sliced potatoes. Much better than the current french fry offering).

Hardee's doesn't sell the Western Bacon Cheeseburger..... I'm sure there are other differences. Maybe CKE should combine the best of the two menus and offer all items coast to coast under a single restaurant name? -Bootstrap Bill

[edit] Advertisements and Carl's Jr.

Many of the ads that I've seen are exactly the same for both chains, except at the very end, the Hardee's ads will have the voiceover say "Hardee's" and the Carl's Jr. ads will say "Carl's Jr," for example, with the chicken breast strips campaign. I'm not entirely sure how to incorporate this into either the Hardee's article or the Carl's Jr. article...

Alyssa3467 19:09, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Locations

I live in the St. Louis area and we have several hardees restaurants... For instance there are 13 within ten miles of my zip code. I believe the east coast portion of the opening sentance should be deleted, and a new sentance saying something to the effect of: Hardees restuarnats are scattered throughout the United States, mostly in the Midwest, Southeast, and East-Coast regions. In fact, their map shows that the majority of the locations are in the midwest, south-east, and middle south states like the carolinas, georgia, kentucky, etc. and not mostly the east coast...

• With Carl's Jr. having 13 states and Hardee's having 31 states (although CJr has higher density), it might be best to state that "Carl's Jr. is a West Coast brand" and "Hardee's is the brand outside of the West coast".

[edit] Burnout Revenge?

I could be wrong, but I think the Mobile Diner vehicle in the game Burnout Revenge has the Hardee's logo on it. Can anyone confirm? -Unknownwarrior33 21:08, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

From Answers.com: The Action/Racing video game Burnout Revenge contains Hardee's advertising. In the game, players can see Hardee's billboards as well as Hardee's delivery trucks driving on the roads.You can also unlock the Hardee's vehicle and play as it ingame. -Caleson 10 June 2006

Electric Grills? I worked at a Hardee's in NJ circa 1976 while in high school and we definately used a gas grill for cooking all of the hamburgers and steak sandwiches, contrary to the article indicating an electric grill. The food was good but the retaurant was going downhill quickly. Certain menu items were not well promoted and tended to sit around for extended periods of time, probably contibuting to the poor food quality of the store in general. At the time I worked there, it wasn't an overly popular fast food chain as McD's, Ginos', Burger king, and other food places were all within a mile on a major highway. Food tended to sit in the warmer area longer than it should have. The store closed within a year of my working there, but I just moved a quarter mile down the road to Gino's (which is now gone also!). They were actually a great place to work for high school students at the time. Unfortunately, this type of job is probably below most high school student today, who have most things handed to them.

Have all of the Hardee's in Minnesota closed?

[edit] Minnesota

Have all of the Hardee's locations in Minnesota closed? They have in the Duluth area.

[edit] History/Commentary

Suggest "Form Over Substance" part and below of the History section be moved to the marketing section. Perhaps the comparison with Wendy's should belong on another page discussing Fast Food restaurants in general. Also, the Today part could be split into the "Star Hardees" era until 2003 and the "Thickburger" era since then, as the menus, marketing, and financial performance have changed significantly. As for combining Hardees with Carl's Jr, I'd vote no on that, as to customers they appear as separate brands and have very different histories; since the CKE merger both brands have been converging but more recently they have been diverging with Hardee's ThickBurger focus. Chip8888 03:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think the brands have been diverging since the Thickburger campaign. Carl's Jr sells the Thickburger too. They just call it the Six Dollar Burger. But I still agree they deserve separate entries. --Skidoo 22:26, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Menu List

For this article, I thought it'd be interesting to try and create a list of the many Hardee's food products, past and present. Being able to look at the variety of products including those discontinued (ex: fried chicken, pancakes, pizza pockets, that fried jalapeno Thick Burger) would be insightful for viewers as well as encyclopedic, and we could attempt to fill in dates of introduction and discontinuity. You'll see I started this on the Planters page. Thoughts? Cale 05:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I think that would be a great idea, although I'm not sure where to find a source for such information. Do we just rely on people's memories? That seems hardly authoritative. How do you suggest such research be done? --Aaron 21:47, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Definitely a violation of Wikipedia:No original research. -- Donald Albury 02:20, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I suppose you're right. I'm certain of everything I previously listed, but it would be nice to find the actual information somewhere. Maybe just a small section dedicated to describing the range of different foods the menu has included at one time or another would be nice, not necessarily listing the "official" names of foods (i.e. Pizza Pockets). Seems unlikely to find any sort of documentation on this though. Cale 16:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red Burrito dual branding

Here in Indianapolis, the most visible Hardee's location now has the Red Burrito logo co-branding on all of their signs, yet there's no sign of Mexican food on their menu. Has a timetable been announced for Midwest expansion? Lambertman 22:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes many are. I am currently an employee of Hardees and some are and will be getting some mexican food. For awhile the Hardees where I work had the Taco Salad, but we stopped about three weeks ago after the Southwest Chicken came out. The timetable I am not too sure of, should probably be by May or around, not totally sure.

for the record, they finally launched this week. Lambertman 19:39, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Menu items

I noticed there is no link to Monster Thickburger - there probably should be, but I can't think of where to put it. Maybe a list, in which case can anyone think of what menu items should be listed and get their own articles? —Random8322007-01-27 21:39 UTC (01/27 16:39 EST)

[edit] Merge

As this article is about a fast food menu item, I suggested a merge back to the Hardee's topic. It's just another bacon cheeseburger with no sign of notability. -- Mikeblas 05:24, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Extreme POV

In the "form over substance" section there is extreme and completely unsourced negative POV information. If citation isn't added soon and there aren't any strong objections, I'm going to remove the entire section, as it seems to be more a personal rant than a neutral point of view. G3noWhirl 19:46, 16 March 2007 (UTC)