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I would suggest two things: 1) Do not treat " ‘ " as a separate letter for listing, as most users coming here will not know if a name starts with the ‘okina. Hawaiian-English dictionaries do not treat the ‘okina that way (‘a comes after a). 2) No need for an "unsorted" list. Just put the name in the proper place in the list and maybe do not bold if lacking information about it (like proper Hawaiian spelling). Names unbolded are essentially suggestions for further development, but are presumably "real" Hawaiian names in use - Marshman 18:17, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Votes for deletion
This article was proposed for deletion. The result after debate was to keep. See Talk:Hawaiian name/deletion for the discussion and record of votes. Postdlf 06:11, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] External link
I added the external link "Hawaiian Naming Practices" in August 2006 and it was there until JereKrischel deleted it in February (together with another link that was clearly nonsense).The link I put back contains original material not found in books and gives useful background information about Hawaiian names in the nineteenth century, and the formation of surnames.It is one of the sources of this article (that is practically written by me). It is not commercial.If this link isn't acceptable, I'm mystified why the Star Bulletin link(also added by me) is?
By the way, I do appreciate it that somebody wipes out spam links and silly contributions to this article .There is a lot of nonsense written about Hawaiian names in the web.
Makaokalani 13:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- Mahalo Makaokalani for your comment. Could it be more appropriate to cite the article you're mentioning, rather than simply external linking it? It seems that at least some of that content could be included here, with a simple:
<ref>Hawaiian Naming Practices, "Target Your Hawaiian Genealogy and others as well"</ref>
- It seems like it isn't a very reliable source all in all, even though some of the information is interesting. I'd be curious as to who "Marina Kaina" referenced by the article really is, and where "Target Your Hawaiian Genealogy and others as well" was ever published. Perhaps we could find better sources? --JereKrischel 06:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I haven't seen the publication so I cannot use it as a reference. Can you find it in book form? You judge the link by its author, I judge it by contents. The most convincing part of the website "Hawaiian Roots" is a list of Ka Hae Hawaii obituaries 1857-61. Somebody who knows Hawaiian has been alphabetizing the names, but sadly stopped half way through. Completed, it would be a fine sample of nineteenth-century Hawaiian names. Maybe you don't find them as fascinating as I do?
I will be delighted if you find a better external link. There isn't much choice. See User_talk:Marshman#Authentic_traditional_Hawaiian_names.3F Almost anything worthwhile written about Hawaiian names seems to go back to Pukui&Elbert(&Mo'okini).Patrick Ka'ano'i&Robert Snakenberg have written a book translating English names into Hawaiian, but the way I see it this article tells about actual usage, it's not a list of name suggestions.Makaokalani 13:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
