Talk:Heckler & Koch G36

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A Question: Is there a G36E or V version with a picatinny rail? i saw this at first in the game "Battlefield 2", but i dont remember any configuration of the g36e/v with a picatinny rail, can anybody confirm (or not?) the existence?

That's the G36C. User:Superknijn

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I don't want to edit this article just yet, but I've served a tour of duty with the Bundeswehr, and the "F" on the fire selector does not trigger full-auto fire, but a three-shot burst. However, it's been almost a year, and my memory may be getting spotty, so I'd prefer if someone can confirm this.

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"F" means "Feuerstoß", and that means full-auto fire.

--- As the article suggests, there are multiple Trigger groups available. Besides the ones mentioned, there is also one with S,1/E,2,F often used in special forces, in a modified version, the G36K with smaller barrel. The F *always* stants for full-auto, but there is a variant which has full auto and double fire, which might cause the confusion here.

A bit of a trivia too is, that F is often called "Freedom" by german soldiers, which means that after your magazine is emptied, there is freedom. This holds for all german weapons with auto fire capabilities.

In my Bundeswehr time (back in the HK G3 days), I learned that if you select "F", take aim and press the trigger, you will get Frieden (German for peace). Maybe you get freedom with the G36, but the G3 requires intensive cleaning after that kind of fun. ;) --84.164.226.193 16:50, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Annother thing about the reflex light. It actually works well with only a bit of moonlight too, and the batteries hold about 2-3 months of usualy combat operation (Which doesnt mean I always had a spare one with me)

Contents 1 UK use 2 Netherlands use 3 Revision 4 Films and Games 4.1 TV 4.2 Games 4.3 Trivia 5 FX Oh Five 6 F=Feuerstoß 7 LMG36 8 Optics 9 Magazine similarities with SIG 550? 10 Who changed the picture? 11 Yeah

[edit] UK use

A bit of trivia - the police were using G36Ks and carbine G36s during a raid in London. Dan100 (Talk) 13:24, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

The police use the G36K (the carbine) and the G36C (the commando) i find it easier to tell by the air vent holes on the forestock, 6 for the standard, 4 for the carbine, and 2 for the commando. yerkschmerk

Added France (GIPN confirmed, GIGN unconfirmed) and Mexico (license-produces G36 under the designation FX-05, see below) to the operators. When the FX-05 gets his own article the entry should be removed.--84.152.118.28 18:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)ClydeFrog

No, the FX-05 doesn't need a separate article. It is a license-produced G36 by another name. --Asams10 17:47, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Why was France deleted? GIPN and RAID (French SWAT) definetly use the versions G36k and c. If you don't beleive me check this page for example: http://le.raid.free.fr/gipn.htm

If only army issue counts then you'd have to remove all but Germany, Spain and Mexico. I'll add France until someone gives me a reason why they should not be up there.--ClydeFrog 19:28, 2 July 2006

I think it's pointless to add countries not using the g36 as the standard issue rifle to the list. Why? Because any self respecting elite or CT or commando or whatever top of the line unit would add the G36 to familiarize and use to their whim. It could be added to the respective entry of said elite unit if needed be. Otherwise it is just misleading, a simple "the rifle is also used by various CT and commando units for example etc" would do. Adding countries using it for their spec ops is plain confusing.

I agree and disagree at the same time for the following reasons:

1. It has to be official part of the armory of a country's unit to be included into that list. So just having bought a few for trial purposes doesn't count. At least I won't add any country to any list unless I know they are part of their official equipment. That's why, for example, Germany isn't a user of the AK74, although they have many of them left from NVA stocks.

2. Most other firearms articles do it this way.

BUT...

3. It's really a tad misleading to have all these countries in the list. Makes it look as if the G36 was as common as the M16 or AK, which it is clearly not.ClydeFrog 11:45, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

the UK has a place on the list though, not just because of the police use. but it almost seemed certain the British Army would adopt the G36, with the L85A1 being dropped from the NATO approved weapon list and H&K being british owned at the time.Also the possibility of conflicts in the wake after 9/11 put a stop on any major decisions, as an armed forces half way through replacing its main weapons system would be as good as no armed forces at all. yerkschmerk 01:23 (GMT), 24 November 2006

[edit] Netherlands use

What unit of Dutch police forces (I know (almost) for certain not the military) (could be Special Intervention units, but I've only seen foto's of them using MP5's and P90's) uses the G36, and which source was used?

[edit] Revision

I went through and revised the article for accuracy, clarity, grammar, and content. I tried to preserve the facts, clarify points, and remove redundancy. There was a great deal of dead space I also removed. I think the new article is more refined.--Asams10 20:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Films and Games

This is getting absurd. The list of games and films is beginning to dominate the article. Is there really a need for such nonsense?--Asams10 07:56, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Nobody is objecting. I'll give it a few more days and then pull down the list of games, tv shows, and films which I feel is way out of place in this article. If anybody would like to defend its placement here or has a better idea, please add to the discussion.--Asams10 00:23, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm adding here what I removed from the primary article.--Asams10 18:36, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Maybe theres a possibility to add an extra article about "Weapons in Computer Games and Movies" or something like that, with a list what weapon appeared in what tv-show/movie/game... i think it's very interesting for some people, including myself --85.176.45.148 13:25, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Please add "pop culture" reference to List of firearms in films or List of firearms in video games, this information generally does not belong in Wikipedia (see what wikipedia is not, WP:NOT) --Deon Steyn 06:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TV

• Cowboy Bebop in episode "Jupiter Jazz"
• MADLAX (G36K)
• Noir (anime)
• Stargate SG-1 (G36K)
• South Park (G36C)
• 24 (G36C)
• Firefly (G36)
• Battlestar Galactica (G36K)

[edit] Games

• Battlefield 2 (G36C, G36E with Picatinny Rail)
• Battlefield 2 - Special Forces (G36K)

[edit] Trivia

German soldiers sometimes call it a "Lego rifle" because of the plastic material and its low recoil.

They call it "Plastepeng", too... Plaste = slang for plastic Peng = Bang/Boom etc.

I have just read the article and found two mistakes: 1) The effective range is 500 m (stated in the manual of the Bundeswehr) 2) The range of the reflex sight is 200 m (The Paragraph "Technical Data" specifies 100 m)

Actually its not "Plastepeng", its "Plastik-Peng-Peng" or "Tupperteil" which means "Tupperware".

[edit] FX Oh Five

The Mexican license-built G36 looks quite different from the G36, and if not it's own article it should at least have some sort of mention with a picture of it. I'm not too educated on it, but I saw a low-resolution picture of it and it's definitely different. Looks like G36 with a splash of XM8. Joffeloff 12:57, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

no...? the 1st productions of G36s in mexico look pretty much the same...besides do you have a link to that pic? the 36 only got adopted around about last year i doubt that it deserves its own page , because it operates just like the G36 and looks exactly the same, besides even if it did look different , theres not enough info on it yet to be worthy of a whole page.

The Mexican FX-05 is NOT produced under any licence from any company. It was designed at the CIADTIM (Centro de Aplicación y Desarrollo Tecnológico de la Industria Militar) by Mexican engineers, most from the IPN (Instituto Politécnico Nacional). Its development was in charge of Chief Military Industry General Oropeza Garnica, and General Iztiga Landeros. Mexico was to build a rifle under licence from HK, with machinery from them, but due to high cost decided to design and build its own rifle. I can tell you this because I personally spoke with Generals of the Mexican Army, and went to review the factories, and met the engineers, and watched the fabrication process. However I'm almost sure it uses (by the moment, while the Mexican optics team develops its own) the same optical sight as the G-36 -- you may see it without the sight here http://worldtrends.blogspot.com/2006/09/fx-05-la-vista.html, that's why it might resemble it a little. I will delete the text stating it is built under licence from HK, and when I have some time I will start making its own article. --pptudela 20:02, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

AFAIK the they had the option to either build the G36 under license or buy the technology and the machinery and designed their own rifle with it. And they chose the latter. No matter how much people emphasize it's not related to the G36, every picture of the FX-05 proves them wrong: Everything is at the same exact same location as with the G36 and the magazine and flash hider are identical to the G36k. All this indicates that it is internally a G36, with a new designed receiver and charging handle. Before anyone proves me otherwise I will continue to see it as that.

[edit] F=Feuerstoß

F means "Feuerstoß" German for burst fire mode!!!

indeed F means "Feuerstoß" and if you translate this literally it's "burst fire mod" BUT F stands for "full-auto"

[edit] LMG36

The LMG36 is not use by the German Army. The Project was terminated ~1995. Only the bibod and Drum has left. The G36 with Drum and bibod are not a LMG. The Rifle is not equipped with a heavy Barrel and the Designation is Supporting weapon. (Unterstützungswaffe). Sorry for the english.--88.73.198.10 18:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Optics

I just updated the optics section to what I recall when I fired a G36 at a Bundeswehr range in Hannover. I recall the upper red dot optic being 1.5x magnification and our Bundi coaches said it was only for night time. The HK.de website lent evidence to both so I tried to make it inclusive. Any comments on this from prior Bundis? Rob - burningchrome

Being a former German soldier: No, the red-dot doesn't magnify. And it is used for quick acquisition of immediate threats whether it's day- or nighttime. If it was only for night why would it have this cell for collecting sunlight (to project the reddot without using the battery)? ;-)84.152.95.64 10:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I heard civilan owners can only use the battery powered night red dot function, as the material that is used to collect light for using the day red dot sight is illegal, so is only present in the army models. yerkschmerk 01:30 (GMT), 24 November 2006

I am pretty sure you heard wrong. What is illegal is using radioactive tritium instead of battery power for the night illumination (as some other military rifles do). -- Marcika 16:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Magazine similarities with SIG 550?

Do the SIG 550 mags fit with the G36 and vice versa? Ominae 08:03, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

AFAIK they don't.

[edit] Who changed the picture?

The previous picture was much clearer - black gun on white background looks much better than black gun on dark green/brown background. 86.131.75.16 21:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yeah

Wouldn't it just be the Gewehr36 instead of Gewehr G36, since the "G" in G36 stands for Gewehr.