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I can find no official mention of the name "Heckler und Koch" on any of the manufacturer's web pages. It appears that the official name of the company is "Heckler & Koch". I propose that all instances of "Heckler und Koch" on wikipedia should be replaced with "Heckler & Koch."

• I favor the revision. --D.E. Watters 22:09, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
• Support. The move is also supported by the 'common names' policy. Niteowlneils 22:27, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
• btw it's common practice in Germany (and I think elsewhere too) to replace the "und" with "&" in company names

Contents 1 Renaming 2 Pronunciation 3 List of Products 4 HK19 5 G41

[edit] Renaming

I have moved the main HK page and will work on changing the other pages that use 'und' instead of '&'.

• This link should help anyone else who wants to lend a hand in the renaming process.

[edit] Pronunciation

Pronunciation: according to HK, 'The English pronunciation is pronounced, “coke.”'

Yeah, whatever. Koch is German for cook, and believe me, it's not pronounced like Coke. Why the "English pronunciation" then? My guess is that H&K representatives want to sell guns instead of teaching foreign pronounciation to a people widely known to ignore anything outside their own country. --Yooden

Despite the fact that no German would pronounce koch as coke, H&K has decided that this is how they will market their name. As loch is pronounced 'läk ... somewhat close to 'cock', I have put it down. As for 'coke,' sorry Yooden that this apparently offends you but for the purposes of Wikipedia, your own misgivings of American culture are irrelevant. Send an email to H&K.

I don't know who you are, but I think some things should be considered: First, H&K is a German company. Feel free to write an article about the US subsidiary and pronounce them in whatever way they would like you to. Second, I linked to a pronounciation guide, there is not much point in finding alternative pronounciations for loch which do mislead the reader wrt Koch.

Anyway, I think the current text is an acceptable compromise. --Yooden

The 'American English' pronounciation may be 'coke', but the 'English English' pronounciation is 'loch'.

Regardless of what personal preferences may be, here's an article discussing this very same problem that should provide the final word on the issue: http://www.hkpro.com/koch.htm Also, working at an indoor range and store that carries HK weapons, I can back up this article from personal experience and with working with HK USA and HK Obendorf staff. --Swordmaster2k1 01:58, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Products

Does anyone else think that the List of Heckler & Koch firearms and small arm products section should be movedd to a seperate list of article? Also, could we remove the links connected with the variant models thaat only link to the original model's article? --talkie_tim 16:30, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Oh, good idea. Maybe we could have a seperate article on it. It is quite extensive. Lkegley9 07:15, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, rip them out. I think this is interesting only for people who already know the list by heart.

I did this to one of the families, I think it should be done across the board. OTOH, once the list is in an external article, I don't care either way. --Yooden

I'll get the list up as another article here and I'll provide a link once I'm finished Lkegley9 06:01, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Got it List of Heckler & Koch products Thanks to someone (don't know who) for redirecting it from my original article Lkegley9 06:10, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HK19

Anyone know what the HK19 weapon mentioned here Provisional IRA arms importation could be? Thanks Fluffy999 23:33, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't exist. The only HK SMG in the '70s was the MP5. --D.E. Watters 17:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Fluffy999 19:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] G41

Why is the HK G41 under "Special Weapons"? From what I know, it's just another 5.56 roller-delayed blowback assault rifle, similar to the HK33. 70.179.127.215 20:57, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

 H&K 

make the best weapons in the world, trust me i know from experiance. There the professionals weapons. The accuracy, power, durability and diversity makes them great and sets them apart from all other gun manufacturers.