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Bloodline was NOT direct to video, it was the franchises last entry to go to cinemas. I hope to help out working on this section, I have huge ammounts of information which can be found on ym website www.cenobite.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ScarecrowX (talk • contribs) 10:46, 12 November 2005.

- ScarecrowX

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by ScarecrowX (talk • contribs) 10:46, 12 November 2005.

How sure are we about Hellraiser: Bloodline (1996) being straight to video? I would swear that's the only one I ever saw in the theaters. The timing is about right. It was one seen from the viewpoint of the future, aboard a spaceship, and had lots of flashbacks to 18th century scenes. I don't remember much in the way of details, though. But if that is the one, it certainly was not straight to video. -- John Owens 09:53 Apr 10, 2003 (UTC)

You could be right. As far as I can tell the Alan Smithee Hellraiser: Bloodline had a US cinema release in March 1996 through Miramax/Dimension, it earned a poor $16 million. It went to video in November in the US and was a video only release in the rest of the world. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.253.64.7 (talk • contribs) 10:30, 10 April 2003.

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There was also a short-lived run of Hellraiser comic books that were (at least in the beginning) overseen (but only to a small extent) by Clive Barker. Actually, they weren't that bad...although some of the stories took massive liberty with the accepted canon of the mythos. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.156.242.36 (talk • contribs) 21:38, 11 April 2003.

Contents 1 rejected coil soundtrack -- relevant? 2 NPOV 3 Seperating Articles 4 The Psychology of Hellraiser 5 Remove the quotes? 6 Comic adaptations 7 Clive Barker's credits 8 Clive not yet confirmed as a PRODUCER for the Hellraiser remake

[edit] rejected coil soundtrack -- relevant?

Just wondering if mention of the original soundtrack by Coil (ultimately rejected by the studio) for the first Hellraiser would be proper encyclopedic? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.120.157.189 (talk • contribs) 07:35, 27 November 2004.

Yes, but only as part of a discussion of the music used in this film or in the series. Simply throwing in a statement to the effect that Coil composed a soundtrack that was rejected would be somewhat irrelevant unless more details about soundtracks is included. Canonblack 01:22, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I've added a Soundtrack section that's mostly on the rejected Coil soundtrack, but which has a bit on Christopher Young's score for the first two Hellraiser movies. As Coil's rejected soundtrack has been commercially released at least twice, it seemed appropriate to address the subject. --Pearce.duncan 03:47, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

"Deader" and "Hellworld" both need an NPOV check badly, as they're over half unsourced opinion. --InShaneee 09:09, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Seperating Articles

I am going to attempt to create seperate articles for each movie in this article. I feel, especially with the template for the first movie, that the rest do not belong on this page. They would be better off with their own page. PlasticMan 01:09, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Psychology of Hellraiser

Pinhead is a very knowledgable villian in the Hellraiser series. He has his Cenobites and this box of hell. But why is his reason for bringing such pain to these innocent people? He was in a mental institution and he was too much for them, they killed him and now he is on a rampage. It doesn't have much thought in the storyline. Thumbs way down to Hellraiser. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Charming Derick 1428 (talk • contribs) 02:03, 22 January 2006.

Huh? --Myles Long/cDc 02:14, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Don't ask us. You're the one who formatted the comment. This isn't a fan message board or a blog for your personal opinions about the characters, this is a space to discuss the article. Please restrict your comments to the article, and to verifiable facts. Canonblack 01:22, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, yes, I was the one who formatted the comment. I wasn't the one who left the comment in the first place, though, as is shown by this page's history (I've corrected the "unsigned" tag to note that). So, my question about the comment stands: "Huh?" --Myles Long 00:08, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Remove the quotes?

I think the "Quotes from Hellraiser" section should be removed. It strikes me as terribly unencyclopedic. It lends nothing to the user's understanding of the film or its legacy. This isn't a fan trivia site or a movie quote database. We're already linking to IMDB, where most of these quotes can already be found. Lastly, I think that some of these quotes aren't even from this film, but from one of the sequels. Anybody agree, disagree, feel motivated to violent protest? Canonblack 22:46, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Agree. --Myles Long 00:05, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Agree. The quotes are from more than one of the sequels - there's stuff from Hellbound and Hell On Earth in there. --Pearce.duncan 03:03, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Also, I think "Pinhead: "Hell is the sound of razors going through flesh. I'm just here to turn up the volume."" from HOE is wrong. It's something like "There's a secret sound at the heart of the world and it's razors through flesh. It's always been there, I'm just here to turn up the volume." --68.232.64.116 21:39, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, i’m bold and remove the section. None of the quotes provides any deeper understanding of the film. They are just sort of a subjective list of favoured sayings. Nice stuff for a fan page – but not at all encyclopaedic. --Zinnmann 14:19, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comic adaptations

They are mentioned on the Clive Barker entry and I was just expanding the entry for SMS and noticed the lack of an entry. The info is out there [1] and you could have something like:

Hellraiser series:

• Book 6
  • Original sin (writer: Ron Wolfe, artist: SMS)

etc. Thoughts?

[edit] Clive Barker's credits

I've edited the section on Barker's involvement in the sequels. He was a credited executive producer on the fourth movie as well as the second and third. Also, the earlier entry said that he had writing credit on the subsequent movies, which implies that he had a hand in their stories or screenplays. In truth he only had character creation credit. This confusion might come from that fact that the IMDb lumps character creation under the "writing" category. --Pearce.duncan 03:16, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clive not yet confirmed as a PRODUCER for the Hellraiser remake

Although he has confirmed himself as a writer, I have not found a corroborating statement to support the implication that Clive is already a member of the production team for the remake. On his Oct 20th interview with Revelations, he confirmed his DISinterest in being a director, but asserted his interest in being a producer.