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Talk:Hideo Murai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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this article is in need of a serious rehashing. interesting as it may be, it has some major weak spots. i already changed Nikola Tesla's name, but there are some spots that i found questionable at best, but have no way of checking and if need be, correcting. one is the outrageous claim that the symbol of the japanese imperial family is david's star. as far as i know it's the cherry flower. granted, this may be seen by some non-japanese as similar to a david's star, but this is something a japanese person would never see as such, in my opinion. so, suggesting that by mentioning jews the man had in mind the japanese imperial familiy seems like something a not very educated conspiracy theorist might come up with. number two: to my knowledge, the japanese are next to oblivious to the jewish people and while they may be a lot of things, anti-semitic is definitely not one of them. so the whole anti-semitic remark schtick seems a bit far-fetched. another minor quible: is there any particular reason the satelites supposedly suggested for AUM's cosmic-mega-death-ray-device-thingy are called sputniks and not just simply satelites? 213.172.246.57 20:57, 24 March 2006 (UTC)


I totally agree with the former commenter. The Imperial family davids star connection I have never heard myself either, and it is not mentioned on the Japanese entry. This seems like a very weak theory. And while the previous commenter is essentially correct about the Japanese in reguards to anti-semitism, Aum were heavily into conspiracy and could have meant the "Jews". But the real problem is that this entry is out and out wrong about the final words Murai left. He did not say one word, and the words he left are open to interpretation. He said "ユダにやられた。。。”(Yuda ni yarareta) which could mean "The Jews got me." or it could also mean "Judas got me". Which could suggest an often rumored connection between Aum and the Yakuza. What Murai might have been trying to say was that he was betrayed. -- Schopenhauer7 06:42, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

For the record, the Japanese imperial family seal is the chrysanthemum (daisy).

[edit] NPOV, conspiracy theories, cleanup

I took out all the Jewish conspiracy theory stuff--it was ridiculous. Clearly, a lot of the info of the page was written by a conspiracy theorist with some pro-cult leanings. FYI: actually, Japan has a long history of anti-semitism, and was for quite some time second only to the U.S. in production of anti-semitic literature. See: Jews in the Japanese Mind, an excellent book by two respected scholars. It's important to understand, though, that Japanese anti-semitism bears little resemblance to other anti-semitism in terms of virulence, or having deep roots. The cultural context and history of Judaism, anti-semitism, and the holocaust is just largely unknown to most Japanese, so they're basically repeating stuff from other sources that have a veneer of authority, but which are actually B.S., as you can see from the silly assertions like Jewish star resembles imperial chrysanthemum crest. In any event, I cleaned up the page, added some context, took out NPOV stuff (someone had gone through all the Aum Shinrikyo pages on Wikipedia and written in info to cast doubt on Aum's guilt, make opponents of Aum look vile, use weasel words to minimize Aum's crimes, that kind of thing). This is not a very active page, so I've taken out the "cleaup" tag as I think this subject has gotten sufficient attention. If anyone thinks it still needs it, feel free to restore it. QuizzicalBee 15:43, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

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