Talk:Holy Day of Obligation

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Which day is the Sabbath Day according to the Bible and the 4th Commandment? Why do we Christians not follow the right day "Saturday" instead of "Sunday"

The Jewish faith would answer Saturday is the Sabbath, as would 7th Day Adventists. Christians moved the sabbath to Sunday as it is the Day of the Resurrection, and the day the early Christians gathered to celebrate the Lord's Supper aka Eucharist (to give thanks). All that the book of Exodus says is to keep Holy the Sabbath, but never details which day of the 7 is the Sabbath.DaveTroy 15:50, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Colossians 2:16 says that Christians are no longer obligated to observe "sabbath days" any more than we are to refrain from eating pork. 66.32.123.84 21:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

May someone please give an external source to the country obligations? I'm having difficulty finding where such information comes from. Thank you. --24.79.216.175 02:13, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

To which country's holy days of obligation? In some cases there will be no Internet source, only the publication of the original decision of the Bishops Conference duly confirmed by the Holy See, plus a mention in the country's annual "Ordo". Lima 05:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] St. Patrick's Day

What is the actual status of St Pat's in Ireland? It's listed here as an HDO, but it's not one of the ten listed at the top of the article. If it is an HDO in Ireland, that should be specifically commented on in the Ireland section.... /blahedo (t) 09:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is a holy day of obligation in Ireland, and has long been so. Admittedly, it is exceptional for a country to have as a holy day of obligation a feast that is not in the canon 1246 list; but I have difficulty in imagining what comment should be added to the Ireland section, which already states that Saint Patrick's Day is a holy day of obligation in Ireland and gives an Internet site that enables anyone who doubts it to check for himself. Lima 10:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

On second thoughts, I have added a comment, not under "Ireland", where I found it would be difficult, but under "Observance by country". Lima 10:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Transference to Sunday

I find the following paragraph confusing:

"Three of the ten feast days listed above are automatically transferred to a Sunday, if in a given country they are not holy days of obligation:

• "The Epiphany is transferred to the Sunday that falls between 2 and 8 January;
• "The Ascension of Our Lord is transferred to the following Sunday;
• "The Body and Blood of Christ is transferred to the following Sunday."

It says to me that these three holy days were NOT of obligation and so were transferred to a Sunday. In the U.S. the Ascension was of obligation, but the other two were not, yet it was still transferred to a Sunday.

There is nothing automatic about the transference. Rather the national bishops' conference has to request from the Holy See that the feast be transferred.68.65.122.80 14:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I have added a paragraph the explains this situation.68.65.122.80 15:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for drawing attention to the need for clearer expression. The General Norms for the Liturgical Year and the Calendar, printed, for instance, in the Roman Missal, state (in the present ICEL translation):

7. In those places where the solemnities of Epiphany, Ascension, and Corpus Christi are not observed as holydays of obligation, they are assigned to a Sunday, which is then considered their proper day in the calendar. Thus:

a. Epiphany, to the Sunday falling between 2 January and 8 January;

b. Ascension, to the Seventh Sunday of Easter;

c. the solemnity of Corpus Christi, to the Sunday after Trinity Sunday.

The Missal indicates the same on the page where it gives the texts of the Mass on each of these three feasts, e.g.:

Epiphany is celebrated on January 6 where it is a holyday of obligation; elsewhere it is celebrated on the Sunday between January 2 and January 8.

When the French Episcopal Conference decided not to have Epiphany as a holyday of obligation, but wished to keep the celebration on 6 January, they had to get the approval of the Holy See for that decision. Lima 15:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)