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This article is part of WikiProject Thoroughbred Racing, an attempt to improve Wikipedia articles and content on topics related to the sport of thoroughbred horse racing. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
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[edit] Title

Is this title correct? With the hyphen? -- Zoe

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 10:59, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

For the record, I was going to move the page, but can't. Horse racing currently can't be deleted, due to a server error having to do with block-compression. The error message says the problem will be fixed "in a month or two". Lachatdelarue (talk) 02:01, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

There are ways around such things, moving the article out of the way and labelling it {{pending deletion}}. violet/riga (t) 10:59, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy

Note: Split to new Controversy in horse racing article.
Facts that show horse racing in a bad light were moved off to a seperate page, which has now been deleted. It is clear that both the good and the bad should receive equal show on the Horse racing page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.152.209.197 (talk) 13:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Trivia

Oldest jockey club (founded 1734): Charleston Jockey Club, VA. Shortest odds ever for a winning horse: Dragon Blood (Lester Piggot up) 1 June 1967, at 10000:1. Trekphiler 04:42 & Trekphiler 04:47, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Negative slant

Is it really appropriate for the kidnapping of Shergar to be the only fact mentioned concerning Irish horse racing? Surely there are more germane facts to mention, like listing Irish Classic races or a list of great Irish racehorses?

I've made a start on implementing your suggestion but I wouldn't consider myself knowledgable enough to expand any more than what I've already written. I don't think the Shergar incident deserves mention at all; Irish racing is much bigger than a kidnapping that happened over 20 years ago. Jimg 14:38, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sounds & terminology

Can someone add a section on sounds and jargon? Ewlyahoocom 02:54, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Harness racing more popular than thoroughbred racing in Europe?

"Harness racing is also popular in the eastern United States and more popular than thoroughbred racing in Canada and Europe." I don't know about Canada but I cannot believe that this is the case in Europe. I'm not sure what measure was being used make this judgement but in terms of television and newspaper coverage, crowds, levels of betting, amounts paid for horses, etc. thouroughbred racing dwarfs harness racing in Europe. I am proposing to remove this claim from the article.

[edit] American circuits

The claim "Just as Americans differ from the British on which side of the road they drive, so too do they differ on which way a horse race is run around a track" simply can't be true, as there are many both left-hand and right-handed British circuits. As well as at least three (like Brighton and Epsom) which aren't circuits at all, some (like Cheltenham and Newmarket) where there are different courses possible over a large complex of tracks, and two figure-of-eight circuits where the horses cross their own path.

Also it doesn't say which way round American races are run.

Also it includes dodgy unreferenced myths about Colonel William Whitley.

So I delete that paragraph. --KenBrown 08:25, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

The real difference between US and British courses is that the British are varied in shape, often quite hilly, and have a wide variety of distances. American courses tend to be flat with gentle turns and all pretty much the same short distance. But someone who knows more about them than I do can document that. And perhaps they can say whether American courses are raced clockwise or anti-clockwise as well.

[edit] History??

shouldn't there be a history section? Hostile Hams 12:55, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I was just coming here to suggest the same thing! This article is very focused on modern racing, but horse racing has occurred in various forms for millennia! Also, what about the changing culture around racing: at times it has been a very popular sport, a "lower-class" sport, or an elitist entertainment. I don't know enough to write this, but someone should. Cmadler 17:18, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

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