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[edit] Food Places

I wish I could think of a way to explain how many food places there are in Horwich, and how good they are!

My favourite restaurant is a tie between Harvesters and Scotts My favourite take-away is Nightbar (everyone loves Nightbar!) My favourite cafe is Cafe Brambles, but that new "Taste Buds" was nice when I got something to take out, must try it properly sometime! TR_Wolf

[edit] Town/Village

I know this article says we're a town, and we have a town hall etc, but are we a town or a village? I mean I thought Bolton was the town, and everyone living and working here seems to call it a village, I mean its only about 2 streets for a town centre. I kinda like the idea of it being a village :P

TR_Wolf

I'm not from the area, but given its population size, this is close. I'd say a large village or small town. Jhamez84 20:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

• Horwich waddles like a town and quacks like a town, so, a town it is. It's huge, anyway! You could fit ten villages into the Middlebrook Retail/Business Park and Stadium. Jemmy.
  • Ah no, Middlebrook is in Lostock officially. Horwich's town centre doesnt have a square or a plaza, its just a couple of streets. Everyone here calls it a village, and the buildings are quite villagy. TR_Wolf
    • The Middlebrook site lies on the boundary between Horwich and Lostock. Before the site was developed it was farmland for Sefton Farm in Horwich. Some of that farmland stretched over to Lostock. Old maps and good new maps show the boundaries. If anyone takes the time, they’ll find the Royal Mail's official addresses at Middlebrook are “store/shop, The Linkway, Horwich, Bolton, BL6 6JA”. The Royal Mail doesn’t use the name Middlebrook. Also the name Bolton is only added on for postal purposes. Up and down the country there are small towns and villages which have the addition of a larger town. It seems to me that some people dislike Horwich and hate to see the town having any recognition. Cwb61 14:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
      • Royal Mail postal addresses and postcodes are not really an indication of anything apart from how the Royal Mail sorts mail. But it seems reasonable to call Horwich a town, I have always considered it to be a town. Looking at the online 1849 map, Lostock seems to have been an area around Lostock Hall which is further East. The Bee Hive Inn is shown as nearer to Lostock Hall than Sefton Fold Farm but I would have thought the pub is thought of as in Horwich rather than Lostock? Lostock was actually considered to be part of Westhoughton. --jmb 16:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
        • LOSTOCK, a township in Bolton-le-Moors parish, Lancashire; on the Bolton and Preston railway, 4 miles W of Bolton. It is connected cclesiastically with West Houghton chapelry. Acres, 1,426. Real property, £2,146. Pop., 580. Houses, 121. Lostock Hall here is a timbered house of 1563, with oriels; belonged to the Andertons; and passed to the Blundells. There are a Wesleyan chapel and a national school. John Marius Wilson, Imperial Gazetteer of England and Wales (1870-72)
      • Horwich was called a town in 1870 when it was much smaller so does not seem unreasonable to still call it a town. --jmb 16:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
        • HORWICH, a town, a parochial chapelry, and a subdistrict in Bolton district, Lancashire. The town stands 1 mile N of a station on the Bolton and Preston railway, and 5 WNW of Bolton. The railway station serves for it and for Blackrod, and has a telegraph. The town occupies the site of a Roman settlement; was a seat of cotton manufacture so early as the time of Henry VIII.; carries on now cotton spinning, bleaching, and dyeing; also conducts trade in connection with stone quarries, fire brick, tile, and terracotta works in the chapelry, and with collieries there and in the neighbourhood; and has a post office? under Bolton, a church, three dissenting chapels, a national school, and charities £392. The church was rebuilt in 1831, at a cost of £6, 000; is in the pointed style; comprises nave and two aisles, with lofty tower; and contains a monument, by Westmacott, to Joseph Ridgway, Esq. Two of the dissenting chapels are for Independents; and one of these is a large and handsome edifice of 1855. The national school is a spacious structure of 1832. The chapelry contains also the village of Wilderswood, and is in the parish of Dean. Acres, 3, 230. Real property, £15, 880; of which £170 are in mines, and £82 in quarries. Pop., 3, 471. Houses, 682. The Stoner family and the Rev. Henry Wright are the chief landowners. The reservoir of the Liverpool water works, a large sheet of water, is in the W. The living is a vicarage in the diocese of Manchester. Value, £334. * Patron, the Vicar of Dean. The sub-district contains also a township of Bolton-le-Moors. Acres, 4, 656. Pop., 4, 051. Houses, 803. John Marius Wilson, Imperial Gazetteer of England and Wales (1870-72)
      • Jmb, Yes, the Bee Hive Inn is in Horwich, as does the Alexandra Road/Fall Birch Road area, however the Royal Mail deems that area, for postal purpose, as in Lostock. It seems the Royal Mail is a law to itself and when it suits changes one place’s identity to another one. Lostock has never been part of Westhoughton, it was a township. Lostock, together with the neighbouring township of Blackrod, originally formed a detached portion of the Parish of Bolton-le-Moors. In 1898 Lostock ceased to be an independant township and became part of the County Borough of Bolton. Cwb61 17:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
        • Could it be pressure from residents, preferring a Lostock address to a Horwich one? It does not make any difference to the Royal Mail as they rely on the postcode. You get the same in Bolton with people preferring to be thought of as living in Heaton to Doffcocker or Halliwell. --jmb 00:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
          • Those residents don’t have a say one way or another on whether they have a Lostock address or a Horwich one. The Royal Mail decides which postal locality they have. In June 2006 the Royal Mail decided to change a part of Lostock to Heaton. See: http://archive.theboltonnews.co.uk/2006/6/10/908770.html. So the Royal Mail doesn’t just rely on the postcode, they now use the locality as well. Cwb61 14:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Middlebrook - in Horwich or Lostock?

Middlebrook is split between Horwich and Lostock. The retail part of Middlebrook is in the Horwich side of the boundary. The remainder of Middlebrook (including Reebok Stadium) is in the Lostock side of the boundary. Postalwise the whole of Middlebrook comes under the Horwich postal-locality within the Bolton postal-town area. So it is quite exceptable to mention about Middlebook on this Horwich page, although it should be made clear that Middlebrook's location is split between Horwich and Lostock. Cwb61 15:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)