Talk:Hypermobility

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Contents 1 Generally regarded as a likely possible symptom 2 Brighton and Beighton 3 osteoarthritis 4 re:osteoarthritis and hypermobility 5 Variations In Joint Hypermobility Among Ethnic Groups

[edit] Generally regarded as a likely possible symptom

Could someone who is more knowledgeable about the subject rephrase this line? I don't think it needs this much hedging. Croctotheface 08:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I think it should link to a list of these possible problems.

I just deleted that line - it's not true, for a start. Crana 17:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brighton and Beighton

"The current diagnostic criteria for Hypermobility Syndrome are the Brighton criteria, which incorporate the Beighton score[1]."

This is correct - do not change Brighton back to Beighton. Brighton is *not* a misspelling of Beighton; they are separate things. Read the reference given. Crana 16:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] osteoarthritis

I have hypermobility and i have been told that hypermobility can help prevent osteoarthritis and it confused me when i read this artical. i was just wondering if anyone had more insight into it as both run in my family. Lolcy Lolcy 22:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Whoever told you that got it the wrong way round, I'm afraid - hypermobility syndrome [corrected from hypermobility - see below] increases a person's chance of getting osteoarthritis. Crana.

[edit] re:osteoarthritis and hypermobility

I have looked again at the research after your comment. According to recent research articles accessible through internet search the link between osteoarthritis and hypermobility has been the subject of several studies. patients who present with oseoarthritis may well present also with hypermobility, a certain percentage of the population inherit hm and therefore will also develop osteoarthritis as being members of the total population. An individual with hypermobility has no more chance of developing osteo arthitis than any one else, in fact..the current research DOES show a degree of protection afforded to the articular joints particularly of the hands. Lolcy 01:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)lolcyLolcy 01:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I assumed that you were referring to hypermobility syndrome, which was a wrong assumption to make - sorry. Much of the research showing no association/protective effects (including the hand study you mention) has not be carried out specifically in people with hypermobility syndrome, just people with a degree of hypermobility (the distinction's explained in the main article if you haven't come across it).

HMS is generally considered at present by those researching the area (e.g. Prof Grahame at UCL) as distinct from this generally milder hypermobility that occurs without any extra-articular features - this second form is thought to be from natural variation or training, rather than from mutated, weakened collagen. It's to be expected that this would make a difference, especially as hypermobile people without the syndrome may have different lifestyle factors - a person who does more exercise that incorporates stretching is likely to maintain more flexibility as he or she ages compared to a person who never stretches. A difference in exercise might affect osteoarthritis in some joints.

I do apologise for having said "hypermobility" when I should have said "hypermobility syndrome". Crana 00:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Variations In Joint Hypermobility Among Ethnic Groups

Can an elaboration be made to the following statement made in this article:

"There is considerable variation in joint hypermobility between ethnic communities."

I have not found any research that has indicated that there is any variation between ethnics & racial groups. Has anyone located any information that led to this statement? Can clarification or support be given for this statement? Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zyphryn (talk • contribs) 00:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC).

I agree. They may be thinking of variation due to the regional encouragement of sports that require flexibility, but then it would be due to the sport, not the national origin. Whoever posts this would have to cite a study of innate hypermobility at birth. GUllman 18:21, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't have chance to look it up now but I have definitely seen epidemiological studies indicating that hypermobility is more prevalent, for example, in people from the Indian subcontinent than in caucasians. It's not to do with sport. When I get time I'll reference it properly, but it's an established "fact". Crana 11:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)