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Contents 1 Cleanup 2 Steve Vai and Jem 3 Any Takers? 4 Basses 5 IC vs. Integrated circuit 6 Pronunciation 7 Ibanez-- a company or just a brand? 8 Endorsers or Endorsees? 9 Image of RGT42DX 10 Rosenbloom? 11 Image of Killers guitar player

[edit] Cleanup

Tagged both the Ibanez article and this, its talk page, for cleanup considering each is a mess. If anyone wants to fix the article up (and perhaps organize this talk page while you're at it), especially the Guitars section and the imagery placed somewhat randomly, feel free, otherwise I'll do it when finished revamping BOSS.

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I have the Ibanez Book Right here in front of me. The Jem is located under the Signature Series guitars, and only there, with Stevie Vai's name right under it. I think its case closed. I'm currently working on fixing up the page. Darhallow 20:09, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

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For clarification, the JEM is NOT a Steve Vai signature guitar.

Would it be appropriate to create new articles about certain Ibanez models? I know Stratocaster, Telecaster and Gibson Les Paul have their own articles, but none of Ibanez' models are even close to being as well-known as those classics. Kvaks 16:02, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I would say no. Some detail about the Ibanez lineup today (i.e. mostly rock/metal guitars, rely heavily on high-output pickups and electronics for sound character, rather than wood, etc, etc) in the main body of this article might, however, be of merit. Brother Dysk 12:15, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

Expanded history. Definitely agree we don't need articles on Ibanez models, or at least most of them. Despite their popularity, Ibanez guitars (mostly) do not have the kind of overwhelming cultural significance of the Fender or Gibson models. Soundguy99 5 July 2005 16:01 (UTC)

I think the Ibanez Artcore Series deserves its own article so I created one, if anyone has any objections then feel free to remove the page (if you can do that, sorry i'm new here) But if you want to help I couldn't find much information on the Artcores so if anyone could provide some more that'd be helpful. Happydeath 15:53, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Steve Vai and Jem

ibanez.com clearly identifies the Jem guitar as Steve Vai's signature model. I have been paying attention to these instruments and Steve Vai since about 1987 when the guitar was initially released, and I always remember the instrument being associated with Steve Vai. If there is a piece of history that I have missed, please fill in the gaps with references and we can update this website. I know the instrument has been used by other artists beyond Steve Vai, but I believe they are using what is still considered his signature model.

It technically is. Ibanez built the first prototype and sent to him on his birthday ('The Guitar', Terence Ashley) However, Ibanez broke tradition naming it, and called it the JEM (If they followed tradition: SVM (EX: JSM (Satch's) PGM (Gilbert's))) Gewehr

http://www.jemsite.com/etc/interviews/quotes.htm

"I asked Ibanez if they would build me one. A bunch of different companies approached me - all good companies - but nobody really delivered exactly what I wanted, and Ibanez did. Then we talked about mass-producing it, and I didn't want to put my name on it, because who wants to buy a Steve Vai guitar? What is it going to be in 20 years? It's better that the guitar actually speaks for itself. It's a very fine instrument that will transcend my popularity as a guitarist. As time goes on and other great guitar players some along, I don't think the guitar will bow out, because it's a good guitar and it should live on." (GP - 5/88)

That's from Guitar Player magazine. Rei23 15:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Any Takers?

Iwas just browsing and i saw this, and it just happens to be my favorite bands model of guitar. System of a Down uses Icemans which are totally cool i have one too.

You guys know anyone in bands that have Icemans or the like?

Paul Stanley of kiss Gewehr

[edit] Basses

I have an Ibanez BTB series E-Bass. Does anyone know something about the bass guitars by Ibanez? --84.151.183.55 10:52, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] IC vs. Integrated circuit

I was confused by the use of this acronym in the article until I clicked on the link. Does anyone have any objection to changing the first instance of this to "integrated circuit (IC)"? --malber 20:35, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

How is this name usually pronounced? I'm not asking how to pronounce the Spanish name Ibáñez; that I know -- I mean when English speakers talk about Ibanez guitars, how do they usually pronounce it? User:Angr 13:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

• I have always heard it pronounced I-ban-ez, with the a, being a short a (as in cat). Hope that helps. Prsgoddess187 13:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

And the first syllable? Like "eye"? User:Angr 13:41, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

That's right, at least how I know it. Sorry I didn't add that in earlier. I wonder if the company website has a pronounciation for it? Sorry again, my mind wanders like that sometimes. Prsgoddess187 15:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

So roughly, eye-BAN-ez, with stress on the second syllable? User:Angr 15:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I reckon there are many different pronounciation is different countries. In Indonesia, it is pronounced ee-ban-ez.. I have a French friend and he pronounced it the same way like I do, ee-ban-ez.. Just hold on, I'll get back to you as I have a Japanese friend..

I personally pronounce it "eye-buh-nezz". --Dayn 09:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I have been told by fellow guitarists it's actually pronouced "ih-buh-nehz"EarlCampbell20 15:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't it make sense to pronounce it from it's Spanish roots? Since it was a spanish aquired company. ie. EE-bah-nez? 80.126.32.62 19:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ibanez-- a company or just a brand?

The impression this article gave is that Ibanez is a company owned by Hoshino Gakki Group, but its homepage somewhat stated there's simply no such "Ibanez company;" Hoshino's two brands (the other is Tama) are merely brands owned by Hoshino. I wonder it's just me, or some errors in the article... --Samuel Curtis 08:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

If you look at the company history on the Hoshino Gakki website, they state that Hoshino Gakki MFG was spun off from Tama Seisakusho Inc. back when Tama made guitars and drums. The Hoshino Gakki Group are multiple companies. These companies are Hoshino Gakki Co., Ltd., Tama Seisakusho, Ibanez Guitars, Guangzhou Hoshino Gakki Mfg. Co., Ltd., Hoshino Gakki Mfg. Co., Ltd., Hoshino Gakki Hanbai Co., Ltd., Elger Co. (also known as: Hoshino(U.S.A.)Inc.), Serlui B.V., and other, now defunct companies like Camco Drum Company. It just so happens that Tama and Ibanez are the only 'customer facing' companies. All the other companies are wholesale companies that only do business with other companies. Rei23 17:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Endorsers or Endorsees?

When a famous person is paid to publicly say "I use this product and I like it", that celebrity is said to be endorsing the product. From a grammatical perspective, then, the musicians who endorse Ibanez should be called endorsers, since they are the subject of the verb endorse. Please let me know if it is not common practice to do so, despite the grammaticality. Thanks. 38.117.131.2 17:47, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image of RGT42DX

I've replaced the image of the RGT42DX with one that I took of my RG220. The original image does not list a source, but it appears to be a lower-res version of copyrighted image. I plan on taking a better photograph later this week, when I have an opportunity to take one in a better setting. The image states that it is public domain, but this seems unlikely. --Varco 02:30, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rosenbloom?

"By 1965 Rosenbloom had decided to stop manufacturing guitars and chose to become the exclusive North American distributor for Hoshino Gakki instruments. " The article casually mentions "Rosenbloom" twice assuming we already know who or what Rosenbloom is. The article gives no explanation as to who Rosenbloom is. There is no wikipedia article on any entity named "Rosenbloom" and while there are some articles on people with the last name Rosenbloom, none of them seem to have anything to do with guitars. What gives? This is very confusing. Digging through the history of the article, there seems to have once been a very succinct explanation of who Rosenbloom is and how he fits in. This entire paragraph was deleted for seemingly no reason on November 16th, 2006, without altering the rest of the article (hence the later references to Rosenbloom without explanation, which were left in as they were not part of the deleted paragraph). I recommend re-including the information about Rosenbloom or eliminating the other references to him (preferably the former). Here's what the article used to say on Rosenbloom (it was the second paragraph in the "History" section):

In 1954, Harry Rosenbloom opened a music store in Ardmore, Pennsylvania, northwest of Philadelphia along with his main store on Arch Street. In the mid-1970s, Harry moved his entire operation to the location it has today, in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania. Due to the post-World War II music boom, his sales soon outstripped his inventory, and he began a company called Elger Guitars (named so after his son Gerson, who is now running the business, and his daughter Ellen) in an attempt to manufacture enough guitars to fill his needs. The Elger Guitar company made a relatively small number of hand-built, high quality guitars through the early 1960s.

66.108.185.50 04:29, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image of Killers guitar player

Sorry to butt in here, i do not usually edit anything but I had to say that I am 99% positive he is not player an Ibanez Destroyer. It is a Gibson/Epiphone Explorer. The Destroyer has an obvious tail point similar to the Iceman. Maybe there was once a Destroyer model that didnt but Ive never seen one. Thought youd like to know, and I apologize if Im wrong. Mike Toalston