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Contents 1 Deletion failed 2 Too wide 3 Infobox causes blank space 4 Changes to infobox 5 name, subject_name 6 Web site link is a BAD boy 7 Superfluity in the Infobox 8 More formatting 9 Image caption 10 I have an Idea!!!!!!!!!! 11 Template merge

[edit] Deletion failed

This infobox was proposed for deletion on September 8, 2006. The decsion was a strong keep. discussed here. Bejnar 16:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too wide

The box might is possibly too wide, its often difficult to find wide enough large images that fit the box, it would help out to an large degree if it would be alright to make the box thinner. Thanks - Patman2648 02:04, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Talked about more in depth here

[edit] Infobox causes blank space

See about it here: here — Prodigenous Zee - 03:14, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes to infobox

Could we possibly discuss major changes to the infobox here before making them? It appears that a large-scale change was made (which improved the infobox spacing but removed the color), then it was reverted, then reverted again and the color restored. I'm not personally hooked on the color - in fact, I only put it in arbitrarily when I was making the template. It probably looks better without, if it's all the same to everyone.

I don't like the color either. I just put it back so that nobody would revert back to the broken version that puts an inch-thick bar of whitespace at the top of every article. — Jul. 12, '06 [00:06] <freak|talk>

I too am not exactly a fan of the colour, but it is soft on the eyes (at least for me). — Prodigenous Zee - 00:52, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Well I'll take that as a rough consensus against the color.. taking it out. --Aguerriero (talk) 14:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

No colour makes the infobox have less impact, which I don't think is right. I suggest that something along the lines of a box around the name but with no colour to fix this. The box would be the same length and width of the other ones in the infobox. — Prodigenous Zee - 14:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree that there should be a color, but maybe lightgreen isn't the best color. Also I think the lettering should be a little bigger, as it looks a little small without the color. Maybe we should try a more bold color, like red or brown. Registered user 92 (talk • contribs)

I agree with Prodigenous that there should be a box around the name and with Registered User 92's idea for bigger font for the name but I don't care either way on the color situation except that if a colour is used make it a lighter shade. - Patman2648 08:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I think there should be a current age added in. Hole in the wall 09:33, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

That sounds almost impossible to maintain. --Aguerriero (talk) 14:37, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] name, subject_name

Can someone clarify for me why there seems to be a dispute about whether something should read "name" or "subject_name" in the template? Maybe we should discuss the issue in the open and reach a consensus, instead of just reverting each other over and over? --Aguerriero (talk) 14:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

If one uses subject_name, the system will automatically take the page name and put it in the top box. This wouldn't be good for articles with disambiguations such as Dave Murray (musician). — Prodigenous Zee - 14:46, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah. Well then, I think it's pretty clear that it should be "name". --Aguerriero (talk) 16:14, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Web site link is a BAD boy

I don't know if anyone has noticed this, but if the Web site link is the longest thing in the box, the little icon with the arrow that appears after the address hangs off the right edge of the box. Anyone know why it does that? It may be a Firefox thing - if anyone is so-equipped, can they test it in Internet Explorer? The article I am looking at is Marty Willson-Piper. --Aguerriero (talk) 20:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Superfluity in the Infobox

There's been a sudden interest in altering the infobox to include height. In my opinion height, hair colour, eye colour, weight etc: are trivial tidbits better suited for a teen magazine and not required in an encyclopedia article about a guitar player. Who cares how tall Charlie Christian was...and what verifiable reference are you ever going to find for it? Perhaps if all project members could throw a vote in here now, we could at least have a concensus to fall back on. And...if anyone disagrees they can voice their opinion here as well. Anger22 13:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree that those are inane details. If there is something physically extraordinary about a guitarist, like being 8 feet tall, I can see mentioning it in the article, but it definitely doesn't belong in the infobox. --Aguerriero (talk) 00:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Unnecessary details that don't belong there, thanks for bringing it up. - Patman2648 05:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More formatting

I hate to bring this up again, but the more I look at this template the more something just bugs me about it. For example, a lot of times when I use it, the labels for Notable Guitars and Years Active will break to the next line, and it makes everything look funny. I can manually subst the template and make it wider, which fixes it, but a while back there were some concerns about making the template too wide. Anyone have additional thoughts on this? Can we either shorter those labels, or make the template wider to accomodate them? --Aguerriero (talk) 16:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image caption

Every other infobox has a caption option, I think one should be added. Any thoughts? 75pickup (talk • contribs)

I was noticing that myself. I am sort of indifferent to them. In many boxes the image caption simply repeats the name of the article subject. But at least the option is there for indicating the year the pic was taken...or perhaps to focus on the particular instrument the guitarist is playing in the photo. My 2 pennies anyways. Anger22 00:05, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I have an Idea!!!!!!!!!!

I think that the info box should contain the tuning's that the Guitarist frequently uses such as SRV would be 1/2 step down and Clapton would be Standard and Van Halens could be Drop D or whatever he uses--Seadog.M.S 23:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template merge

This looks really redundant. The only thing that I see that's different is the "notable guitars" one, which could easill be merged into {{Infobox musical artist}}. Just like how {{Infobox Broadcast}} covers both radio and televsion and how {{Infobox CVG}} encompasses the {{Infobox Arcade Game}} parameters. Hbdragon88 04:41, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I see no reason for this template to exist. The only unique thing is it says "notable guitars" instead of "notable instruments". *Spark* 20:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

The main outstanding objection to a merger/replacement is a valid complaint about the rather flamboyant magenta currently used for non-vocal-instrumentalists in the musical artist infobox. Once that's addressed (and it is being addressed), arguments for replacement may be more persuasive, but on the other hand, it's really not that big a deal, and it's been a bit of a contentious subject in the past, so I prefer not to push the issue, even though I'm the one that added "notable instruments" specifically for compatibility. (And as someone who is trying to be a member in good standing of two wikiprojects that appear to be slightly at odds, I'd really don't want to take sides.) Xtifr _tälk 21:30, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Makes no difference to me, as soon as that ugly color is gone. I'm here to improve articles, not argue over templates. --Ars Scriptor (t) (formerly Aguerriero) 04:50, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Seems redundant to me too. The musical artist infobox seems more appropriate. Strobilus 23:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)