Template talk:Infobox golfer
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[edit] Documentation
[edit] Purpose
{{infobox golfer}} — An infobox about a golfer that is associated with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Golfers.
[edit] Usage
[edit] Required fields
{{infobox golfer
|name= (players name)
|image= (name of image)
|date = (date of birth)
|year = (year of birth)
|birth place = (place of birth)
|height = (height, no standard units)
|nationality = (nationality)
|residence = (current residence)
|college = (education/college team)
|year professional = (year turned professional)
|current tour= (current tour memberships and years joined)
|professional wins= (professional wins, total and (optional) by tour)
|majorsandyearswon = (major championships denoting the tournament/s and year/s)
|awardnameandyear = (major awards and the year/s won)
}}
[edit] Optional fields
rydercupapp - The number of Ryder Cup appearances made.
[edit] Empty syntax
{{infobox golfer
|name=
|image=
|date =
|year =
|birth place =
|nationality =
|residence =
|college =
|year professional =
|current tour=
|professional wins=
|majorsandyearswon =
|awardnameandyear =
}}
[edit] Example
The following wiki code will give this example for Tiger Woods.
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| Birth: | December 30th, 1975, Cypress, California |
| Height: | {{{height}}} |
| Nationality: | American |
| Residence: | Orlando, Florida |
| Career | |
| College: | Stanford University |
| Turned Professional: | 1996 |
| Current Tour: | PGA Tour (joined 1996) |
| Professional wins: | 67 (PGA Tour 47; other individual 18; 2-man team 2) |
| Majors: | Masters 1997, 2001, 2002, 2005 U.S. Open 2000, 2002 British Open 2000, 2005 U.S. PGA 1999, 2000 |
| Awards: | No. 1, PGA Tour Money List (1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005) PGA Tour Player of the Year (1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005) |
{{Infobox golfer
| name =Tiger Woods
| image = Tigerw.jpg
| date =December 30th
| year =1975
| birth place =Cypress, California
| nationality =American | residence =Orlando, Florida
| college=Stanford University
| year professional =1996
| current tour=PGA Tour (joined 1996)
| worldranking=1 | professional wins=67 (PGA Tour 47; other individual 18; 2-man team 2)
| majorsandyearswon = Masters 1997, 2001, 2002, 2005 <br>
U.S. Open 2000, 2002 <br>
British Open 2000, 2005 <br>
U.S. PGA 1999, 2000
| awardnameandyear = No. 1, PGA Tour Money List (1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005) <br>
PGA Tour Player of the Year (1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005)
}}
[edit] Discussion
[edit] Additional fields
This template is very small and is probably missing many other required and optional fields. Feel free to recommend changes and add to this template. David D. (Talk) 00:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- As stated below, it is actually too large. It will take up a lot of space. If we are to have this (and I'm not convinced we should as there are major problems making it match up with the diversity of golf careers around the world) it should not attempt to duplicate a lot of the information in the articles (a large number of which I wrote). Osomec 15:11, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- I added a height field into the template. Following the proposed rules of the template, it applies to all golfers. I don't think adding weight would be useful as most media guides have incorrect information and I doubt the LPGA will ever list weight. Clutchworld, 2006-10-18 T 01:42 UTC.
- I think weight should be added, after all, official sites and the wikipedia tennis pages all have weight listed for men and women. Supertigerman 22:57, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- I added a height field into the template. Following the proposed rules of the template, it applies to all golfers. I don't think adding weight would be useful as most media guides have incorrect information and I doubt the LPGA will ever list weight. Clutchworld, 2006-10-18 T 01:42 UTC.
[edit] Golf exists off of the PGA Tour
This template is looking terribly U.S. centric. I have changed "pro" to "professional" as "pro golfer" is American English. Infoboxes on Wikipedia tend to be far too big relative to the text so I think the height and weight should be dropped (the latter is unreliable and prone to change). A lot more thought needs to be given to how this can be made to reflect the global range of golf. Perhaps there should be separate templates for each tour, but some players play on more than one. I've been by far the most active contributor on golf over the last year, and if others are going to start doing more that is welcome, but please don't implement this infobox until is has been improved. Osomec 14:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Problems with the template
I've been thinking about this some more and as I see it we can either:
- Create a whole bunch of templates, basically on a tour by tour basis. I don't think this will work because it will be very hard to allow for all the different combinations of tours which individual golfers have spent time on, which amounts to dozens of possible combinations.
- Simplify it further. This means just listing each golfer's current tour or tours and total professional wins (we can't really even list PGA Tour wins and European Tour wins separately as majors and WGC events count twice so for some golfers European Tour wins + PGA Tour wins > total professional wins, which will look silly and confuse those unfamiliar the global structure of golf - which probably includes almost everyone in the United States). A breakdown could perhaps be given in brackets, showing the number of wins the golfer has on his main tour, eg. "Profesional wins= 10 (7 on European Tour)". I will be posting a modified template later. Osomec 15:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
All good points Osomec. You're changes make the template much more versatile. David D. (Talk) 17:31, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Please don't add anything that isn't relevant to all or nearly all golfers
Women golfers don't have world rankings. Nor do golfers who played before 1986. That's a very high proportion of the articles, so I am going to remove the world ranking box that has been added to the template. Also, if the template is added to any significant number of articles, there is little to no chance of the rankings being kept up to date. It is much better to add general comments on player's ranking records and to link to Official World Golf Rankings so that readers who don't already know about them can find their own way to the official site, which is always up to date. Osomec 22:59, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Can I put WGR back?
With the Rolex Rankings in town, can I put wgr back and just put retired for people who played before 1986 or are ancient now? WriterFromAfar755 01:01, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think having a box for current rankings would work. The rankings change every week and the boxes most likelt won't get updated often enough, especially if infoboxes are added to a lot of articles. A "Career high ranking" might work if the official ranking sites disclosed it, but they don't so that probably wouldn't be maintained accurately either. Calsicol 02:30, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removal of family details
The PGA Tour's official profiles no longer give family details and there is no other reliable source. I never thought it was worthwhile tracking divorces and new babies anyway and I am going to delete that line. The information can always be given in the article if it is available and anyone wants to add it. Osomec 09:45, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The "Results in Majors" Table
The major results table is useful for its at-a-glance impact, but it is visually busy, in my opinion, with every cell in the table filled. I would like to offer a suggestion: replace "DNP" (did not play) with a simple "-". The dash is visually distinct from finishing-position numerals, and would allow the 3-letter "CUT" to stand out.
For example, here is the way Retief Goosen's results now appear (minus graphics)...
Tournament 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 The Masters DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP CUT DNP T40 CUT 2 T13 U.S. Open DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP CUT CUT T12 1 CUT T42 British Open CUT DNP DNP 75 T10 CUT T10 T41 T13 T8 T10 PGA Championship DNP DNP DNP DNP T61 CUT CUT CUT T37 T23
And here is what I propose...
Tournament 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 The Masters - - - - - CUT - T40 CUT 2 T13 U.S. Open - - - - - CUT CUT T12 1 CUT T42 British Open CUT - - 75 T10 CUT T10 T41 T13 T8 T10 PGA Championship - - - - T61 CUT CUT CUT T37 T23
Cleaner, yes?
[edit] Major Results
My apologies... did not realize that I would lose the formatting when I saved the comment. - CHC
[edit] Reduce image size?
Excuse the ignorant question, but is there a way to adapt the template for use with a smaller image? The only way I've been able to use it, images that are smaller automatically size up to 200 pixels, degrading in the process. Thanks for your help. Crunch 00:07, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Majors and awards
The majors and awards sections in the infobox appear bunched up. Unlike the tennis infobox, the golf one has the names of the majors and the awards listed on the right side, with the years next to them also on the right side. I would highly recommend putting a heading "Majors" or "Major Championships" centered, with the names of the 4 majors on the left side, and the player's best finish in that major on the right side. I believe this would make it more organized and easier on the eyes if one wants a quick snapshot of a player's major championship performance.
Similarly, I would recommend putting the awards names on the left side (and centering "Awards" above it) followed by the years won on the right side. At the moment, these simply look too clustered. Supertigerman 02:25, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
