Talk:Intelligent transportation system
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"'When these systems were first introduced', some drivers resisted them, viewing them as a way for management to spy on the driver. Only a foolish management would use it this way. ... If management treats drivers as the heroes they often are" -- Is this NPOV?
Management must be foolish, then. UPS used this system to unionbust by tracking when trucks would meet up, thus determining that drivers were talking to each other. Graft
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[edit] TMC means what now?
With regards to the "Virtual TMC", is that a repeat of TMC meaning Traffic Message Channel, or is it the TMC that stands for Traffic Management Center and is synonymous with TOC (Traffic Operations Center)? Should probably be clarified...The Literate Engineer 00:51, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'm assuming it means Traffic Management Center. A virtual one would be, e.g., web-based. -- Super Aardvark 18:59, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] USA-Centric
The story about the growth of suburbia, just to name one, is very USA-centric. I added the "globalize" template Samfreed 10:24, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cleanup
Main thing this article needs as far as cleanup is some better organization. For starters, a better introduction, with a more universal statement about ITS technologies and mentioning things like the evolution of the "ITS" name from "IVHS (Intelligent Vehicle/Highway Systems)" could be used. Then, a real organization of the content, likely with sub-pages for basic, broad categories: traveller information, vehicle control, roadway management, etc. And a shift from list-based to paragraph-based content would be good... I started that by deleting the "Outline" list. The Literate Engineer 00:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Please don't throw out the good with the bad
Dear Literate Engineer,
I have reviewed Intelligent transportation system article and have the following comments: First, it is WP customary practice to post a clean-up tag and then wait 3-5 days before commencing the actual clean-up deletion process. We don't want to throw out the baby with the water, and therefore Literate Wikipedians should be afforded the chance to review the good and the bad and suggest accordingly. If you agree with me, please revert the page back and let's allow for community consensus to elaborate on the findings and propose accordingly -- if nobody responds, then let's speedily delete. :) Best regards --Lperez2029 14:59, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
The edit I made is reviewable here: [1]. What I removed was, I believe, deadwood. It did not describe anything, it merely presented a list of dates and technology names without any context. As such, I considered it to be nothing more than poorly formatted jargon that made the article unneccessarily large and reduced its accessibility to non-experts. I did not expect its removal to be controversial, and so I did not consider building a consensus beforehand to be necessary, which as I understand the cleanup tag & process is the only reason someone who has the will and ability to begin at once should not do so. The Literate Engineer 00:22, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, I have to agree with you there was certainly a lot of deadwood in the article - but still, it is always a good idea to establish some consensus with the community before speedy deletion takes place - unless, of course, the material is considered improper, but that's not the case here -- anyway, I plan for extensive revamping of this article so I look forward to your input, contributions, and support in the matter. No deadwood, just the plain facts. Let me know what you think (and don't worry about having thrown out some good stuff along with the bad, I'll replace it.) Take good care --Lperez2029 02:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Worldwide view
I find very little in the article that deals primarily with ITS in any specific country -- therefore it appears the article represents a worldwide view of the subject. Additionally, extensive cleanup and contributions continue to make the article Wikiproof. Does anyone else have any comments or opinions before I remove the 'Worldview' tag? --Lperez2029 18:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Realtime
Realtime -- it appears realtime is nowadays the most used, abused, and misused word in the telematics industry. All should read and understand the methodology that enables "Real-time" systems hardware software computing before utilizing the term in a form of speech for systems applications (or Wikipedia articles for that matter). That's why I deleted it. --Lperez2029 03:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] GrnAngel
Sorry, but I deleted your last entry (it appears that everything you have posted on WP has been the subject of deletion). I checked out your web site and I think you have good intentions but please contribute to the article first by expanding it -- Actually, it is Wikipedia policy to contribute encyclopedic material and crossreference information including external links where applicable. Contributions are needed to the article - not just the random addition of links. Don't get discouraged, but I would suggest that you may first consider commencing the writeup of an article of your own, reference it, polish, perfect it, share it with the community for opinion on where the article should reside, and then publish it. Please also keep in mind that Wikipedia is more about Quality, not quantity. Best regards, Thank you, and good luck! --Lperez2029 14:39, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Floating Car Data and Floating Cellular Data
Technically speaking, Floating Car Data and Floating Cellular Data are identical terminologies in operation and performance because they are used for the same purpose of estimating traffic flow progression. Does anyone have any objections to the convergence of both separate terms to "Floating Cellular Car Data? Please comment. --Lperez2029 17:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, you are therefore creating a new terminology. Merge the sections, yes, but explain that there are two similar acronyms... perhaps call the section FCD and then explain the acronym in the opening sentence— superbfc [ talk | cont ] — 01:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
'Floating Cellular Vehicle Data' best defines the use of the technology because it also applies to motorcycles, buses, trucks and the motorized vehicle in general. Plus, it's the cellular signal that floats, not the vehicle. --Lperez2029 13:17, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Telematics Solutions
Telematics Solutions Pty Ltd, Brisbane, Australia - Research, Consulting, & Training web site (except for the home page) need to be translated to English (for the English WP). Also, There appears to be a lack of information to warrant link inclusion under 'Service providers' or 'Systems developers'. A suggestion is made to complete translation of web site pages to English, then, perhaps consider entry under new Research, Consulting, & Training section. Does anyone else have any comments? --Lperez2029 23:12, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] External links
Every time I see a new link get added, all I can think of is WP:EL and WP:SPAM... unless criteria is specified for the following external link sections, I intend to remove them entirely:
- ITS Service providers
- ITS Management services
- ITS Systems developers
--Bossi (talk ;; contribs) 15:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- Don't forget WP:NOT. In case this needs a second opinion or moral support, here it is. Femto 16:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Ahh yes, there is certainly no shortage of policies. I have removed the above 3 sections. I recommend that someone consider working ITS News & information and ITS Interest (working) groups directly into the article as footnoted references and remove those sections, as well. --Bossi (talk ;; contribs) 17:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I removed additional 'unsupported' material -- thanks for helping with the cleanup process! --Lperez2029 21:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
