Talk:Irving Berlin
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[edit] Discrepancies
Somebody (not me) wrote in the article:
- (Author's note: I have found some discrepancies between various bio's on Berlin with regards to his early life, I'm not a Irving Berlin fan so I leave it for other more knowledgable than myself to tidy up)
Just thought I'd preserve it here.
[edit] Place of Birth
There seems to be no agreement about his place of birth. Half of the pages say it's Siberia. And half of the pages say it's Mahilyow (Mogilev), Belarus (then under Russian empire). --rydel 00:34, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] rodgers
added a "d" to richard "rogers" (now "rodgers"); the wrong one was linked.
[edit] Note moved from article
Note: Whoops: Do you by chance mean Summer Time???? If so it was written not by Irving Berlin but by George Gershwin, and it was from Porgy and Bess, not As Thousands Cheer. left by 64.12.116.70
moved the above question/statement from the article here for review. Doc 20:31, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
- No, anon, "Summer Time" and "Supper Time" are different songs, and the reference to Supper Time here was no typo. -- Infrogmation 00:47, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
The first paragraph says he wrote .01 songs, and later he is credited with 1,000. This discrepancy needs to be resolved.
[edit] Irving Berlin
I've removed the suggestion that "Alexander's Ragtime Band" was borrowed from a piece by Scott Joplin because the evidence for this claim falls somewhere between dubious and non-existent, and I've also removed the suggestion that "God Bless America" did not become the National Anthem because Berlin was Jewish, for the same reason. (And besides, most people don't know or care that Berlin was Jewish).
[edit] Berlin and the piano
It's simply not true, as asserted in the first paragraph, that Berlin never learned to play the piano, and I've removed this claim. He could, and did, play in public on several occasions, and he made use of the piano when writing songs. It IS true that he played mostly on the black keys, like many untrained musicians, and he used a transposing device when he wanted to play in a key mother than F-sharp major.
[edit] family name
I've changed the family name back from "Beilin" to "Baline" on the authority of the book by Berlin's daughter, Mary Ellin Barrett. "Baline" is the form used by the family itself, in spite of whatever immigration officials wrote down.
[edit] pictorial matter
In my revision of this article, several images have disappeared, including a portrait of Berlin on the cover of TIME magazine. These should be restored, but I don't know how to do this.
[edit] Consuelo Vanderbilt Wedding
In the article, it says that Ellin was disinvited from Consuelo Vanderbilt's wedding. The article on Consuelo says that she was married in 1921, whereas the Irving's were married in 1926. How could she be disinvited from a wedding that happened four years previously??Shahrdad 17:04, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Russian-American
If he was born in Russia, should his title not be Russian-American composer? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leethal (talk • contribs) 21:41, 21 February 2007 (UTC).
