Talk:Islam in Albania
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[edit] Islam/Religion in Albania
This article needs to decide if it is about Islam in Albania or Religion is Albania, as a lot of text is devoted to discussions of religions other than Islam.
Additionally, is there a cite for the claim The majority of citizens of Albania are Secular / Atheist (which appears twice in the article). Ashmoo 07:47, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
- I have read stuff that from very recent polls 60% of the population claim to be atheist while only 10% claim to be Muslim. It is on the Wikipedia Albania page.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.194.71.122 (talk) 22:23, December 18, 2005.
- The polls conducted in Albania, since 1950's show that 70% of Albanians are Muslims. There have been few polls in the last years, but 2 of them show Muslims being 70%. Nathalie Clayer pretends for more, while a USAID study showed them around 58% and the orthodox around 10%. However the article on Islam in Albania should remain. Olsi.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.40.209.146 (talk) 16:46, October 25, 2006(UTC)
[edit] Ethem Bey mosque's picture caption
In the Picture's caption, Ethem Bey should be Et'hem Bey. I'd change it but I dont know how to change it with out rendering the picture into text. Freestylefrappe
- Fixed OneGuy 04:57, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Religious hatred "incident"
""In October 2003, police arrested Kastriot Myftari, author of the book "Albanian National Islamism" on charges of inciting religious hatred. The book contained the author's opinions on Islam and how the religion has impacted Albanian life. According to the prosecutor's office, several statements in the book demeaned Islam. The prosecutor had asked the court for 6 months imprisonment for the author. In June, the court acquitted Myftari of all charges.""
This last paragraph does not seem very relevant especially regarding the fact that the author was found innocent in the end. I'll remove this from the main article page.--Vlug 06:54, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] POV?
Is this
In the mountainous North, the propagation of Islam was strongly opposed by Roman Catholics. Gradually, however, backwardness, illiteracy, the absence of an educated clergy, and material inducements weakened resistance.
historically factual (I mean especially the second sentence, that it was backwardness, illiteracy, and material inducements) that allowed the propagation of Islam? Besides, the way the last part is expressed is also poor: weakened resistance? It's like we're dealing with WW2 or something alike, and it sounds quite POV to me... --Yobaranut 08:55, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
- It seems that that statement could describe all of europe until the 1700s.
[edit] source
What's the source for this paragraph:
" A recent census has approximately 60% of the population as agnostic or atheistic, 12% as Roman Catholic, 18% as Albanian Orthodox, 7% as Muslim, and the rest as others. Ironically, Albania is considered by many a Muslim country though France has a greater percentage of Muslims."
Anyone has the source? If not, it should be deleted. 72.129.170.249 05:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
The source is the survey.
[edit] Contradiction?
in one section, the article says "over 95 percent of the country's young people were choosing spouses of the same religious background". Later it says intermarriage is very common. Which one is true, or when did conditions change from one to the other.
[edit] Polls
Albania is 75% Muslim 15% Orthodox and 10% Catholic but not all are religious this is due to 50 years of communist rule but Islam has been growing rapidly since 1999 in 2004 the strength of Islam was shown when almost 200,000 people prayed the Eid/Bajram prayer in the streets of centre of Tirana (capital city) that is approximately a third of the population in the capital city and especially since 2004 Islam has been rising ever faster.
In Kosova 93% of the Population is Muslim the country canto become any more muslin unless the 6% of the Serbs and 1% of Roma Gypsys convert into Islam as well but realistically that's not happening Kosova has a small Albanian population that are non-Muslims its is around 15,000
- Your "statistics" are obsolete. Apart from cheap propaganda, I don't see any facts there. It just resembles Serbian websites talking about some phantasy-world islamic Albanians and such. But you can drop that here, because it's quite comical other than annoying. Where did you hear this nonsense: "200.000(!) people praying in the centre of Tirana"? Maybe you should say that in public around here and see the reaction of the people (but better not... if you want my advice). People here are some 74% nonreligious, last poll in 2004 by a private service and INSTAT the state stat. service. And that also quite fits the US state department data mentioned in the article, that from 2005 to 2006 had a decrease in estimates for the religious population in Albania from 30% to 25%, which leaves about 75% nonreligious. Thus the trend is not at all favourable toward religion. So if you take that into consideration maybe you'll even be able to see that the majority of mosques built in Albania after year 1994 with some peculiar Saudi Arabian funding, don't even have hodjas to manage them. Maybe even these Arabs were caught up in the "Albanians are muslims" hype. Eg. people have been sueing the two mosques in Tirana in the court of law because the muesins keep singing with loud speakers irritating the habitants. There's some misconception about this. Albanians weren't 70% muslims neither back in the 1930, cause even then the so called "statistics" were not real but rough estimates out of thin air. If there's a major religion here, they're the Orthodox Christians that have gained a lot of following, but all of them fall under the 25% of religious people, and no religion claims any majority of population in Albania, cause people would laugh at them. This shows you haven't got the slightest idea what's going on here for the last 100 years. If Albanians don't believe in gods, they just don't, where's the problem there? Isn't that supposed to be sth. personal? Vlug 19:00, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
