Talk:Israeli wine
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[edit] Neutrality
I believe this article is not neutral, indeed, I believe that it reads a bit like propaganda. For instance there is no prizes section in the Australian or French wine articles. There are other examples too.Squall1991 12:34, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
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- I agree that there are definitely elements of bias in this article. The use of the word "vibrancy" in the intro is a good example of that. However, French wine is known worldwide as the stereotypical paragon of good wine, and Australian wines are also well-distributed and well known. Israeli wines are not - I think that the vast majority of people would be surprised to learn that there even is a significant production of wine in Israel to begin with. Thus, perhaps the use of a prizes section to help indicate the rising popularity and prominence of Israeli wine is not entirely unjustified, no? LordAmeth 13:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- I believe that the prizes section is unjustified but I believe that it could be written into other parts of the articleSquall1991 03:47, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree that there are definitely elements of bias in this article. The use of the word "vibrancy" in the intro is a good example of that. However, French wine is known worldwide as the stereotypical paragon of good wine, and Australian wines are also well-distributed and well known. Israeli wines are not - I think that the vast majority of people would be surprised to learn that there even is a significant production of wine in Israel to begin with. Thus, perhaps the use of a prizes section to help indicate the rising popularity and prominence of Israeli wine is not entirely unjustified, no? LordAmeth 13:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. Not neutral. It will be cleaned up as time permits. -- Steve.Moulding 15:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rewrite
I have (admittedly unilaterally) Decided to rewrite this article to help. I will list all changes I would make here: 1.Making wine over 2000 years before Europe. Not specific enough get an estimate between year-x and year-y or toss in my opinion. 2. I would not put an emphasis on and remove the phrase "the fact" from "despite the fact that the cellars of Givon were built 500 years earlier than the cellars of Champagne, France" And that is as far as I have got. Plus I would reword the entire section personally but I know people would not like that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Squall1991 (talk • contribs) 07:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC).
